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NyM410
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"There aren't any "racist policies" in 2016 though. The only argument is that there is a disparate racial impact. That technically is not racist by itself. Is it a racist, sexist law that "murder is illegal" in Chicago, because it disproportionately puts young black men in jail?"


What a bizarre set of sentences. But what about.... in its finest form.

Anyway, a circuit court literally said that the NC's voting law went after black voters with almost surgical precision. Is that not the definition of a law made with the intention of marginalizing a subset of the population?

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 11:00 AM. Reason : Disparate impact is not blatant racism but IS systemic in nature ]

9/2/2016 11:00:14 AM

thegoodlife3
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"does sarcasm on the internet trigger your inner autism, or are you always like this?"




[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 11:02 AM. Reason : .]

9/2/2016 11:01:15 AM

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^^if a law is unconstitutional because it affects minorities more than the majority then almost every law would be unconstitutional tho

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM. Reason : s]

9/2/2016 11:07:14 AM

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is being that retarded physically painful?

9/2/2016 11:10:03 AM

beatsunc
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^

9/2/2016 11:27:06 AM

dmspack
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"Anyway, a circuit court literally said that the NC's voting law went after black voters with almost surgical precision. Is that not the definition of a law made with the intention of marginalizing a subset of the population?"


but it was "corrected" therefore it's all good now and nothing to see here. just ignore the fact that the folks that crafted the bill and passed it through are still in office.

9/2/2016 12:02:11 PM

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17445600/san-francisco-49ers-qb-colin-kaepernick-message-was-ignored-actions

not as good as Bomani's piece, but still pretty good

9/2/2016 1:11:21 PM

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^^ not to mention specific counties in NC are still actively trying to restrict early voting where they can

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/inside-the-republican-creation-of-the-north-carolina-voting-bill-dubbed-the-monster-law/2016/09/01/79162398-6adf-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_northcarolinavote-950am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

9/2/2016 1:23:01 PM

thegoodlife3
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just finished reading ^ and was about to post it, ha

9/2/2016 1:26:39 PM

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"Anyway, a circuit court literally said that the NC's voting law went after black voters with almost surgical precision. Is that not the definition of a law made with the intention of marginalizing a subset of the population?
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To suggest a requirement holding everyone to the same standard is somehow "racist" is regressive logic 101. Do you really think so poorly of black people that you think they are utterly incapable of having an ID? This is racism of low expectations.

To frame this as "racist" by republicans reveals just how disconnected the SJWs are from reality... It's discrimination against democratic voters. If you're somehow incompetent enough to not have an ID in 2016, you're probably a loser dependent on big government, and would overwhelmingly vote democrat. How much melanin you have in your skin is a non-issue. Naturally though, idiot SJWs can't help but scream "RACIST!"

Disparate outcome =/= disparate opportunity

9/2/2016 1:29:22 PM

NyM410
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Wow that article is damning...

9/2/2016 1:37:16 PM

Dentaldamn
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^^ I have low expectations of JCE. Does that make me racist????

9/2/2016 1:38:49 PM

moron
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^ it makes you an intelligent individual with a fully functioning brain.

9/2/2016 1:52:38 PM

JCE2011
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Personal insults don't change the fact that you can't refute my post, bleeding hearts.

9/2/2016 2:25:19 PM

AndyMac
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"You're required to have blue or green eyes to vote, but the rule isn't racist because white people are held to that same standard. SJW huffpo Echo-chamber BLM"

#alllivesmatter #gamergate

9/2/2016 2:52:48 PM

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Interesting logic...

So just as white people's genetics result in blue and green eyes...
Black people's genetics result in being too incompetent to get an ID?

That's actual racism.

9/2/2016 3:05:13 PM

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if they had 2 parents, maybe they'd have more blue eyes....amirite?

#StopCallingMeWacist
#ItHurtsMyFeewings
#YoureAnSJW

9/2/2016 3:07:39 PM

moron
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"Personal insults don't change the fact that you can't refute my post, bleeding hearts.
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LOL, this refutes your post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/inside-the-republican-creation-of-the-north-carolina-voting-bill-dubbed-the-monster-law/2016/09/01/79162398-6adf-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_northcarolinavote-950am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

We've all already accepted that you're wrong and are moving on

9/2/2016 3:09:22 PM

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It's like when you used to have to prove literacy to vote. Everyone has that opportunity, some people were just too incompetent to do anything about it

9/2/2016 3:11:23 PM

afripino
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hold on JCE...let me take this one...

oh...of course you'd link to the Washington post. you would link to that liberal SJW echo chamber with your false narrative. what a moron

amirite?

#ALM

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 3:13 PM. Reason : everything I don't like is liberal media]

9/2/2016 3:12:21 PM

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So what is a more relevant factor to the policy makers:

-What the color of their skin is
-Who they vote for

If the proposed law is "racist" in intent, then surely the republicans would try and keep those black people from voting for them, because it's about race, not elections, right?

9/2/2016 3:24:21 PM

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You're taking the wrong point here, genetics don't matter.

The rule could be that you have to be dressed in plaid seersucker pants to vote. Black people could go out and buy a pair, but white people are more likely to have them. Republicans know this already and it's in fact the entire reason they passed the rule.

9/2/2016 3:25:41 PM

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"Black people's genetics result in being too incompetent to get an ID?"


you realize the obtaining ID thing was only a part of the law? there were other parts that also targeted black voters.

9/2/2016 3:34:48 PM

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9/2/2016 3:44:57 PM

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There's a difference between intent to stop democrats and intent to stop black people from voting. SJWs see disparate impact and scream racism, but republicans would do the same thing if the races were reversed. It's about votes. By definition if the law requires the same thing of all people it is not racist.

9/2/2016 3:47:32 PM

ElGimpy
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So then you don't think requiring people to prove literacy or that they owned land was racist either?

9/2/2016 3:58:07 PM

dmspack
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"There's a difference between intent to stop democrats and intent to stop black people from voting."


just because it is politically motivated doesn't mean it's not racist. when it disproportionately impacts black people like this does (doesn't matte who they vote for) it is racist. that's all there is to it.

it can be both racist and a political move to prevent the opposition from getting votes. the fact they were willing to fuck over black people for political gain is a textbook example of racism.

[Edited on September 2, 2016 at 4:01 PM. Reason : f]

9/2/2016 3:59:02 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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What they did was fucked up and illegal. Call it whatever you want.

9/2/2016 4:04:18 PM

EMCE
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JCE2011 is waiting for republican politicians in NC to publically announce "I'm a racist, and we suppressed votes for racist reasons" before he is willing to admit the truth.

You all need to stop responding to his simple ass, and get back to talking about Kaep's ridiculous socks.

9/2/2016 4:10:13 PM

Dentaldamn
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So he understands it is preventing democrats from voting but won't make the mental leap

9/2/2016 6:35:03 PM

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"when it disproportionately impacts black people like this does (doesn't matte who they vote for) it is racist. that's all there is to it."


I already explained how this logic doesn't hold up. By that logic, violent crime laws are in place because of "racism"

9/3/2016 1:40:30 AM

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2661508-santa-clara-police-may-boycott-49ers-games-amid-colin-kaepernick-controversy?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

The police say they may choose not to work the 49ers games, over Kaep.'s socks

9/3/2016 7:32:52 AM

NyM410
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Um, that is ridiculous.

Police maintain control for all kinds of peaceful protests, from BLM to KKK to Westboro Baptist. If they refuse to work Niners games over a fucking QB they are nothing but a bunch of SJWs.

Police officers unions are corrupt pieces of shit.

[Edited on September 3, 2016 at 7:53 AM. Reason : X]

9/3/2016 7:52:18 AM

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"I already explained how this logic doesn't hold up. By that logic, violent crime laws are in place because of "racism""


I really want to explore the other beliefs of JCE bc sentences like this show a lack of critical thinking that I assume bleeds into other topics with hilarious results.

9/3/2016 8:21:49 AM

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The cops work off duty for the games so it's not official assignmentso. If Kaepernick has a right to protest, do the cops not?

9/3/2016 10:13:46 AM

afripino
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Much like the criticisms' of Kap, there are better ways to protest. Two wrongs and all that jazz

9/3/2016 10:30:40 AM

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^ except Kap is excersing a constitutional right. So I wouldn't really call his a "wrong" even if you disagree with him. Isn't part of an officers job to protect the rights of citizens? And they threaten to quit doing so...The officers are sworn to protect their community and instead they turn their back on somebody (and a buncha people that have nothing to do with Kap) within that community. We hear so much about how these officers have a thankless job and aren't in it for the recognition and praise, and now these guys threaten to abandon their duties due to somebody's peaceful protest. That is the exact opposite of what they should be doing.

[Edited on September 3, 2016 at 10:43 AM. Reason : H]

9/3/2016 10:41:49 AM

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"Isn't part of an officers job to protect the rights of citizens? "


nope

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

9/3/2016 10:56:31 AM

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I understand that the cops are working off duty here, thus aren't required to volunteer to provide security at football games. I also think that should something happen at a 49ers game, and the police show up in a reactionary role as opposed to a preventative role, it will be the police that end up looking bad. The mayor would say to the police "so, because one person exercised their freedom of speech, your police department put everyone else in that stadium at risk? Unacceptable. "

9/3/2016 10:59:36 AM

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Kaep needs to check his 50% white privilege

[Edited on September 3, 2016 at 11:03 AM. Reason : echo chamber]

9/3/2016 11:02:38 AM

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there are private options for security. they're much better than state and municipal LEOs and are more accountable.

9/3/2016 11:35:50 AM

EMCE
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True


But if I'm not mistaken, the police department there is saying to the 49ers "discipline your player, or we will punish you". That seems to me to be an agent of the government trying to punish someone for exercising their freedom of speech.

9/3/2016 11:46:40 AM

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I think was more map calling police corrupt racist murders that they took offense too, more so than his right to free speech.



I don't agree with them refusing, but I think saying, "they don't like him expressing himself." Is intentionally obtuse.

9/3/2016 2:09:11 PM

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Yeah, the socks and his comments are a bit much

9/3/2016 2:13:29 PM

ssclark
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Yeah... Probably not big fans of the pig socks as well.


9/3/2016 2:19:31 PM

afripino
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Yeah, the socks were over the top, but unless he said ALL cops are bad, I don't understand the gripe against his stance.

9/3/2016 2:28:48 PM

ssclark
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That's their gripe? They think he said all cops are bad. Kinda childish on both sides.

we have the right to free speech, we don't have the right to police protection. That seems to be the contention here

9/3/2016 2:37:13 PM

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"I really want to explore the other beliefs of JCE bc sentences like this show a lack of critical thinking that I assume bleeds into other topics with hilarious results.
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Or he's just racist and cognitive dissonance prevents him from seeing the obvious gaps he would otherwise see.

9/3/2016 3:54:36 PM

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Unless the city/County has a contract with the 49ers to provide police presence at games they're probably hiring off duty to provide security (that's pretty much what most teams do). If that's the case they are under no obligation to work those games. They're also not precluding officers from working those games if they want.

Personally I'd rather they hire private security anyway, probably a lot cheaper and easier to hold accountable.

9/3/2016 7:36:38 PM

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Just realized it was a pig in the socks,I just thought it was a chubby white cop...

9/4/2016 12:18:51 PM

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