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theDuke866
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Either that, or WAY more bad ass.

1/14/2019 5:02:48 PM

H8R
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it weighs what a z4 weighs, roughly in the 3100's

0-60mph: 4.1s

nothing special, at least it doesn't cost $155k

no manual option, boo

first 1500 will be top spec cars, forget what they called it

Kind of a let down considering what it's replacing IMO

1/14/2019 6:42:40 PM

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https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-toyota-supra-is-finally-here-with-335-hp-does-1831719119

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"3,397 pounds"


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"The Launch Edition’s $56,180, is limited to 1,500 cars and has red accents outside and a red leather interior"


that rear view looks terrible The other views don't look much better.


[Edited on January 14, 2019 at 9:02 PM. Reason : ]

1/14/2019 9:01:45 PM

H8R
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Yeah, definitely a fail by Toyota
The concept would have been a home run

1/15/2019 12:15:57 AM

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1/15/2019 12:02:26 PM

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I don't mind the looks. I do mind how "low" the power ratings given the cost and the lack of a manual trans... Paying quite a premium for the Supra name.

1/15/2019 12:03:37 PM

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Looks like a racecar

Takes longer to get to 60 than a Mustang GT

1/15/2019 4:13:08 PM

theDuke866
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^^ the looks aren’t bad. They’re just disappointing and kinda subdued from what this car should be with that nameplate and that price point in 2019, which describes the problem with the car overall. Nowhere near enough “holy shit” for a 50-something thou Toyota with a storied nameplate, with the competition that’s out there now.

1/15/2019 7:18:08 PM

H8R
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This just looks like we've been tricked again by Mr Scrumples



[Edited on January 15, 2019 at 9:30 PM. Reason : f]

1/15/2019 9:26:31 PM

TKE-Teg
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I think the styling, for the most part (and especially in this day and age of ridiculously UGLY cars) is pretty good. The hood is too tall (thanks to dumbass pedestrian crash standards) and the door air vents (non-functional) are straight up retarded, but otherwise I like it.

I can't really come to terms with the 3400 lb curb weight though. Pretty heavy for a car with a shorter wheelbase than an 86. And the lack of manual transmission isn't something I could overlook. Toyota is only predicting sales of 10,000-15,000 per year worldwide. They could all be manuals and still sell every single one. Dumb.

[Edited on January 16, 2019 at 12:52 PM. Reason : ]

1/16/2019 12:51:12 PM

0EPII1
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If y'all would rather have a near-new manual previous gen model, then cough up half a mil for this:

https://jalopnik.com/the-1994-toyota-supra-that-sold-for-121-000-on-bring-a-1831800363

Fascinating[ly ridiculous].

1/16/2019 3:49:51 PM

0EPII1
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Just realized... go to page 1 to see my OP, and scroll down to the end of the post (halfway down page; it is a long post) to see the renders (in 4 colors), from 20 months ago...

...99% identical.

Biggest letdown in the history of "debuts".

My peeves with it:

- makes 15 hp more after ~20 years, so that's <1 hp/year
- even the nissan 370Z has 332 hp, plus the NISMO version has 350 hp, and they come out with 335 hp?
- the nsx came back with a vengeance... ok so the supra didn't have to morph into a 573 hp 0-60 mph in 2.7 sec monster, but how about 400 hp???
- why does it cost $20k/67% more than the 370Z?
- couldn't they at least have made a toyota interior? after so many years they couldn't do that?
- NO MANUAL
- sure, a more powerful GRMN version will probably come out, but it will cost crazy money, and it is 2 yrs away
- the least powerful JDM model has 194 hp, less than the Toyota 86--makes no sense!!!

(GRMN = Gazoo Racing [tuned by] "Meister of Nürburgring")


I like:

- looks... nose used to look weird to me, but after seeing nearly identical renders for years, it has grown on me, and the rest of the car looks very muscular, especially those rear fenders
- and the sound of this:

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"Toyota is promising driving enthusiasts “an exhilarating blend of power, agility and precision handling, achieved thanks to the car’s combination of a short wheelbase and wide track, light weight, low centre of gravity and highly rigid body”.

Rather impressively, Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda himself gave the final green light to the car’s handling, after testing it at the Nürburgring. He is one of the rare breed of highly talented Toyota Master Drivers.

“Back in the day, I spent countless hours driving an old Supra at the Nürburgring to become a Master Driver,” said Toyoda-san. “Supra is like an old friend that holds a special place in my heart.

“The new GR Supra was born through testing at the Nürburgring, and I can honestly say that it is a a car that is fun to drive and better than ever.”"



Y'all will love this:

The history of the Toyota Supra in pictures
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news-list/toyota-supra-history-in-pictures

Rare Japanese sports cars in beautiful detail
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news-list/features/petersen-automotive-museum-fine-tuning-japanese-american-customs-collection

1/17/2019 12:10:58 AM

H8R
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http://www.thedrive.com/news/25959/why-people-dont-like-the-new-toyota-gr-supra?fbclid=IwAR0uNry1bS6oKPXQ34C8LRneVVtQ9tG7T8yXFV8H-MCoDOSTj_Ffp05nbPA

1/17/2019 1:54:11 PM

GrimReap3r
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Can I strap a 70-80mm turbo to it and make power?

1/17/2019 7:50:49 PM

0EPII1
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The worst part is that the Z4 comes with 382 hp, and for whatever fucking reason, the same engine is tuned to 335 hp in the Supra.

IDIOTS.

1/18/2019 1:04:45 AM

Dr Pepper
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there's a guy on IG swapping an N54 twin turbo into a MKIV

1/18/2019 8:29:20 AM

0EPII1
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LOL

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121000_2020-toyota-supras-fake-vents-can-be-made-functional

1/18/2019 11:16:05 AM

0EPII1
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https://www.topgear.com/car-news/toyota-supra-render-inspired-iconic-mk4

1/18/2019 7:38:26 PM

0EPII1
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First 2020 Supra auctions for $2.1m at Barrett-Jackson
MSRP = $55k
HP = 335
~40x MSRP
https://www.motor1.com/news/301709/first-2020-toyota-supra-auction


First 2019 Shelby GT500 auctions for $1.1m at Barrett-Jackson
MSRP = $70k
HP = 700+
~15x MSRP
https://www.motor1.com/news/301704/mustang-shelby-gt500-auction


McLaren Senna (1 of 120 in USA) auctions for $1.46m (281 miles on odo)
MSRP = $900k
HP = 789
~1.5x MSRP
https://www.motor1.com/news/301460/mclaren-senna-us-spec-auction


Strange world

1/20/2019 5:23:42 AM

0EPII1
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Toyota Supra TRD Concept

https://www.motor1.com/news/304630/toyota-supra-performance-line-concept-trd

http://www.trdparts.jp/supra/performanceline.html

2/10/2019 10:37:33 AM

TKE-Teg
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Toyota needs to stick to developing their engineering in house, and start outsourcing their styling. Basically the opposite of this, geez.

2/14/2019 1:06:41 PM

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