it’s almost as if this sort of thing is quite common

not common: refusing to return classified documents

1/24/2023 2:05:54 PM

^seriously

1/24/2023 10:12:50 PM

Seriously, tho?

1/24/2023 11:00:00 PM

yeah that shit is not common at all, except apparently for high ranking political figures.

After Hillary, Trump (which is a somewhat different case), and Biden, I'm barely even surprised to hear about Pence, too.

The brazenness of Hillary Clinton and Trump is mind boggling...but what is maybe equally mind-boggling in the Biden case (and too soon to say on Pence) is that he had a bunch of Top Secret material for [I]years[/I], and nobody apparently realized it was gone. Unless there is more to it than I'm aware, that is a huge deal.

1/24/2023 11:32:20 PM

Thats what i wondered when i heard biden stuff was from vp…is there no one to check this stuff in past several years? I want to know what files Regan has

1/24/2023 11:50:02 PM

He got titty pics of Margaret Thatcher

1/25/2023 12:06:12 AM

In all seriousness, I could see how at the highest levels it could be very easy to lose track of classified documents in circulation. The sheer volume of them going through the President, VP, congressional members, cabinet members could make it next to impossible to keep track of things, especially for items at the lowest level of classification.
Duke can correct me, but I suspect that at the lowest levels, nobody is tracking individual copies, and it wouldn't be unheard of for a Pres or VP to want to hold on to a briefing while mulling a related decision, and have that copy get lost in the shuffle. Top Secret shit is obviously different, someone's got to be tracking individual copies, so it does boggle the mind how that could end up in a garage for 7 years and nobody noticed it was missing. Unless, you know, the whole thing is a clusterfuck

1/25/2023 12:28:44 AM

All the Secret stuff I can think of that I ever dealt with was catalogued as individual copies. TS stuff definitely is. Maybe there's some exception, but I can't think of any. Probably the loosest would be working papers, but even those are logged, with every page numbered.

I never dealt with a whole lot of Confidential. Most stuff, if it's worth classifying, is Secret or TS, sometimes with other qualifiers, (such as ACGU, NOFORN, SCI--possibly with further controls like SI, TK, GAMMA...or even codeword level access, which I never dealt with.)

Secret level stuff is mostly treated seriously in terms of accountability, but TS stuff is a whole different ballgame in terms of both accountability and how tightly guarded people are with it. You'll see people tiptoe and hint around Secret stuff, pushing the bounds of how much they should say, but TS is just about universally treated with an ironclad, no-grey area mindset of "Do not talk about Fight Club."


I can definitely see how it would be easy for screw-ups with the volume of material they are dealing with, but if there's TS level stuff sitting around people's unsecure houses and offices, and nobody even knows it's missing, then that is definitely fucked up.

1/25/2023 1:00:44 AM

there’s also the theory that more things get classified in an effort to stay away from FOIA requests

so what maybe wouldn’t have been deemed classified during another era is now deemed classified to keep the press from digging too deep

1/25/2023 1:01:48 AM

What they need to do is go through past CIA and FBI top level folks' homes and see what they can find.

Although at this point, everyone's shredders have probably gotten plenty of use so it's too late. I'm sure this is a widespread problem, not limited to just the top two members of the executive branch.

1/25/2023 9:17:40 AM

Pfizer.

yuck

1/26/2023 11:44:51 AM

what are you talking about?

1/26/2023 12:19:48 PM

^

I even checked Faux News and couldn't find anything about Pfizer and Biden that I need to be angry about. What gives?

1/26/2023 12:47:48 PM

Jt3 heard about the pfizer 'shot' so he drank it and didn't like the taste. THANKS BIDEN!!!

1/26/2023 1:34:28 PM

Perhaps it was the annual recommendation for the covid vaccine.

1/26/2023 3:22:18 PM

There's a Project Veritas video making its way around the internet.

Too bad Project Veritas has negative gazillion credibility.

1/26/2023 3:40:27 PM

why would there be an issue with the recommendation of a yearly Covid vaccine?

1/26/2023 3:47:19 PM

https://www.dailywire.com/news/project-veritas-video-pfizer-official-says-firm-considering-ways-to-mutate-virus-via-directed-evolution

With what I know of Project Veritas, I question whether Jordon Trishton Walker is even who they claim he is.

1/26/2023 4:02:20 PM

But also what does it have to do with Biden?

1/26/2023 4:04:12 PM

He received the Pfizer vaccine?

The person in this video seems to be making a counterclaim:

https://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1618452536817782788

[Edited on January 26, 2023 at 4:34 PM. Reason : ]

1/26/2023 4:20:48 PM

^^^^You got me, I'm just tossing out possible reasons why he would've just said "Pfizer"

1/26/2023 5:00:33 PM

Clever of Biden to play up the gop plans to cut social security and get them to agree we’re keeping it

2/7/2023 9:45:54 PM

This is Biden’s most mealy mouthed speech yet

2/7/2023 10:10:04 PM

The whole thing is pretty hard to watch and / or listen to.

Republicans are still being shitheads.

2/7/2023 10:13:41 PM

Kamala is standing up too much. Also telling that Biden hasn’t referenced anything she’s in charge of.

2/7/2023 10:22:03 PM

Why do I even watch the Republican response AKA Dog Whistle?

2/7/2023 11:05:51 PM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727691/U-S-carried-Nord-Stream-bomb-attack-secret-plan-led-Joe-Biden-report-claims.html

2/16/2023 7:01:24 AM

(Daily Mail)

2/16/2023 12:34:54 PM

Granted, Seymour Hersh has largely been considered a respected journalist, particularly earlier in his career; however, even mainstream new stories are viewed with suspicion when they only reference a single source with no documentary evidence.

Here's a direct link to his Substack article, for reference:

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

[Edited on February 16, 2023 at 1:02 PM. Reason : ]

2/16/2023 1:02:12 PM

Quote :

"cheeto: As soon as I announced that I’m going, he announced a team will go,” Hopefully he will also be there. This is good news because we got them to ‘move.’ The people of East Palestine need help. I’ll see you on Wednesday!”"

[Edited on February 19, 2023 at 10:25 AM. Reason : s]

2/19/2023 10:00:38 AM

I don't get the Republican fixation on being physically present at various situations, other than just general partisan hackery. It's possible to be keeping tabs on a situation without having to be there. I'm sure Sleepy Joe can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

2/22/2023 7:35:57 PM

The funny part (not funny) is how the accident and the response to it was partially influenced by gutting regulations and government agencies. You mean that had tangible consequences? Government bad, except when we need federal resources to clean up our toxic waste dump of a town.

2/22/2023 8:44:11 PM

Strict regulations create good times. Good times create lax regulations. Lax regulations create preventable disasters. Preventable disasters create strict regulations.

2/22/2023 10:08:59 PM

2/23/2023 12:41:38 AM

My student loans are not and most likely won’t be forgiven fyi

3/23/2023 2:59:40 AM

NTTAWWT!

3/23/2023 6:12:23 AM

^^good

3/23/2023 11:40:16 PM