40 felonies

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"Hunter is clearly a crook. "

yep, and joe was getting 10% of the millions of dollars in political bribe money from china and ukraine


[Edited on July 27, 2023 at 6:02 AM. Reason : biden crime family ]

7/27/2023 6:00:24 AM

I don't think it's a good look to protect a drugged out criminal son. Of course you can say you love him and support him and all that, but he should get the same penalties as anyone else committing the same crimes just as the Trump Crime Family should. Just because the Republicans apply two standards of justice doesn't mean the Democrats should.

7/27/2023 6:22:27 AM

And how exactly are democrats protecting him? He made a plea deal with a Trump appointed prosecutor, who has repeatedly insisted he was given ultimate authority over the case.

7/27/2023 7:58:03 AM

Well, the plea deal included language that gave him immunity from future charges.....that sounds kind of fishy.

7/27/2023 8:46:06 AM

Wasn't the issue that Hunter Biden's attorneys wanted the plea deal to include an immunity clause but that the plea deal didn't actually include that language?

Or was it that the plea deal included an immunity clause, but the attorneys for the DOJ disagreed with the agreed upon language at the hearing?

The details still seem kind of murky.

[Edited on July 27, 2023 at 10:24 AM. Reason : ]

7/27/2023 10:20:51 AM

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"And how exactly are democrats protecting him? He made a plea deal with a Trump appointed prosecutor, who has repeatedly insisted he was given ultimate authority over the case."

I didn't say any of that. I mainly think people don't want to give Republicans a victory, which is understandable, but the guy sucks. Good example to demonstrate the opposite of nepotism and reinforce that Hunter Biden is not a member of the administration and does not hold political office. Do the crime, do the time.

7/27/2023 7:48:58 PM

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"I didn't say any of that"

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"I don't think it's a good look to protect a drugged out criminal son. "

?

7/27/2023 7:52:52 PM

dude has no idea what he’s talking about and is still trolling in 2023

7/27/2023 9:05:04 PM

^^Poor use of tense. That wasn't a suggestion that was actively being done, but it seems the overall opinion of the thread participants is that if anything actually happens to Hunter, it's categorically bad for Joe. Maybe insomuch as it reflects on him as a father. I'm more referring to thread participants whose ideologies are known than national Democrats. I'm not clear on what outcome you guys want or think would be good other than none of this ever happening.

^Who do you think I'm trolling, or who do you think I think I'm trolling? Do you prefer every Soap Box thread just be you spamming links?

7/27/2023 9:29:31 PM

that word salad isn’t doing you any favors

in what way does my posting links equal spamming?

7/27/2023 10:43:36 PM

I'm not trying to impress you, guy. Doesn't do me any favors toward what end that you think I'm seeking to achieve?

What is YOUR opinion on the Hunter Biden legal case and the optimum resolution? Write your own words in a decipherable way.

As for spamming links, I'd direct you to your several running social commentary threads (some that you didn't start, but rather co-opted) where you might post five times in a row with (different) links of something you've read that you think supports your position and that you apparently think someone else is going to take the time to read and discuss, but no one engages you because the thread has really just your own echo chamber.

7/27/2023 11:21:55 PM

pretty sure I’ve never posted 5 times in a row in any thread or co-opted any thread I didn’t start (what an odd attempted slam)

also claiming no one takes the time to read anything I’ve linked to is a fun thing to allege with absolutely no proof

I don’t think any attempted smear of Hunter Biden matters at all, especially since the worst provocateurs/political bottom feeders are the ones who are obsessed with him

it’s not illegal to have a son who has a problem with substance abuse

outside of the substance abuse, there is no hard evidence that ties anything he’s done to his dad, which is why the right’s obsession with him is comical, considering who their leader is and how his kids have absolutely been guilty of everything that’s been alleged of Hunter Biden

it’s a textbook example of projection, my dude

7/27/2023 11:45:51 PM

He's going to likely plead guilty to something and serve some penalty, it will hurt papa Biden to some level, regardless of outcome, maybe a weird bell curve where too much or too little is a problem. Regardless, the people that want to think Biden is protecting his son are gonna think that no matter the outcome, and vice vera, the rest are just gonna have to guess. Seems like Biden has done as good a job as he can to appear to be hands off, but rest is up to the people.

7/28/2023 12:49:15 AM

Uh oh! People can never be trusted to draw the right conclusion.

7/28/2023 6:22:25 AM

I don’t think it will hurt papa too much. Only the Trump supporters care about Hunter, and I genuinely don’t think papa had any involvement in the foreign agent crimes, so gop isn’t going to find anything.

Vast majority of Americans realize that parents and kids aren’t the same especially adult kids— we all have family members we wouldn’t want to be associated with.

7/28/2023 10:07:24 AM

^ So Hunter is lying in that phone call to a Chinese agent when he said he is with his father?

Hunter is a disgusting crook and should go to jail. Imagine if it was one of Trump's sons receiving a plea deal for crimes?

Well I guess that settles one thing: both sides are corrupt and engage in nepotism. Always has been, always will be.


[Edited on July 28, 2023 at 12:57 PM. Reason : ]

7/28/2023 12:55:26 PM

A plea deal is nepotism?

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"In any given year, 98% of criminal cases in the federal courts end with a plea bargain — a practice that prizes efficiency over fairness and innocence, according to a new report from the American Bar Association."

7/28/2023 1:30:17 PM

^^
Yeah seems extremely obvious he was lying. There has been literally zero evidence Joe knew anything, no communications, no money trail, and trump was president so couldn’t influence any policy.

As far as punishment, Hunter is getting far worse treatment now than basically anyone, between congress and the media.

[Edited on July 28, 2023 at 1:38 PM. Reason : ]

7/28/2023 1:36:56 PM

I definitely think Biden had an idea of what was going on, that's just how these estates work
at the same time it doesn't have to mean at all that he was influenced in any way

just standard stuff from how 'rich' families and all have to operate in some way. we see them as politicians but they all have their own dynamics on the inside

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"“I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,” Hunter Biden groused to daughter Naomi in January 2019. “It’s really hard. But don’t worry, unlike pop, I won’t make you give me half your salary.” Pop is Joe Biden."

^^
not commenting on this discussion, don't know much about the details
but I do need to point out that in no way are plea deals equal to one another. for the poor, it is a way for a prosecutor to just get done with it. for the well connected, it can mean an easy escape a lot of the time
people in criminal justice, just like any job, have their own ambitions

[Edited on July 29, 2023 at 1:30 PM. Reason : --]

7/29/2023 1:26:32 PM

^ that doesn’t mean anything to me. Could be he had to pay him back for rehab or joes way of trying to make sure he wasn’t buying any drugs.

Joe has to do lots of financial disclosures, hunters facing federal charges and likely had his finances combed through, should be really easy to show if he was sending millions of dollars to Joe Biden’s account and so far no one has shown this.

7/29/2023 1:52:46 PM

Ouch. 20+ calls to the big guy.

8/2/2023 8:57:46 AM

I've never said Trump was innocent in all the things of which he and his family has been accused, and the right has gone through some amazing mental gymnastics to say that some of the things he's done has been ok.

But some of you guys are doing some of those same mental gymnastics to completely absolve Joe Biden from any wrongdoing here. Is it so hard to believe that he knew his son was peddling VP influence to make himself richer?

8/2/2023 9:52:32 AM

Sure, it's possible that Joe Biden knew that his son was leveraging his dad's position to enrich himself; however, I'm not sure that anyone has presented concrete evidence of that, and I'm not sure that having said knowledge would, in and of itself, be an impeachable offense.

I think that it's just as likely that Republicans are exaggerating the gravity of Joe Biden's potential corruption in order to hurt him prior to the 2024 election and to diminish the perceived severity of Donald Trump's criminal liability.

Can you lay out the specific evidence that merits Joe Biden's impeachment?

Can you also weigh that evidence against the evidence that was brought against Donald Trump in his first and second impeachments?

8/2/2023 11:06:35 AM

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" Sure, it's possible that Joe Biden knew that his son was leveraging his dad's position to enrich himself; however, I'm not sure that anyone has presented concrete evidence of that, and I'm not sure that having said knowledge would, in and of itself, be an impeachable offense. I think that it's just as likely that Republicans are exaggerating the gravity of Joe Biden's potential corruption in order to hurt him prior to the 2024 election and to diminish the perceived severity of Donald Trump's criminal liability."

ding ding ding

8/2/2023 11:32:02 AM

SCOTUS has whittled bribery law to the bone. Influence peddling isn’t even illegal in this country anymore. Is it even unethical? That’s where we are in law and society right now. I recommend reading about Bob Menendez (shitty corrupt New Jersey Senator) and Bob McDonnell (shitty corrupt Virginia Governor). The DOJ had the receipts on both these assholes. SCOTUS defined legal bribery as requiring an “official act” and with an explicit quid pro quo agreement. Both these assholes walked after that.

[Edited on August 2, 2023 at 7:32 PM. Reason : The evidence against Menendez and McDonnell was 100x what we have against Joe Biden right now.]

8/2/2023 7:30:27 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/03/devon-archer-transcript-biden/

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"Devon Archer said the opposite of what Republicans claimed"

8/3/2023 12:42:16 PM

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"I think that it's just as likely that Republicans are exaggerating the gravity of Joe Biden's potential corruption in order to hurt him prior to the 2024 election and to diminish the perceived severity of Donald Trump's criminal liability.""

8/3/2023 1:06:59 PM

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" Ouch. 20+ calls to the big guy. "

A parent calling their child is suspicious? Lol

8/3/2023 1:37:24 PM

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" But some of you guys are doing some of those same mental gymnastics to completely absolve Joe Biden from any wrongdoing here. Is it so hard to believe that he knew his son was peddling VP influence to make himself richer?"

What mental gymnastics? Of course Hunter was using his status as the son of a vice president for his career and life. Human nature is that we like to be associated with famous people. Just proximity in business or society can potentially give you access. We basically expect this from any famous person.

But so far none of this has any connection to Joe Biden. There hasn’t been any evidence whatsoever that he was using hunter to launder favors— and considering the timeline is during trumps presidency, this doesn’t even really pass the smell test. I didn’t even think Biden would run during most of trumps presidency, he was nearly my last choice of candidate.

It’s also hilarious that trump literally had his son in law and Daughter working IN THE WHITEHOUSE and they get a $2B deal with the Saudis as soon as they leave… c’mon. If anything this Hunter Idiocy is meant to make the impending criminal investigation of jaredvanka look political when it’s not.

8/3/2023 1:44:44 PM

We should be more understanding of someone battling addiction. I’d say some fucked up shit too

8/6/2023 10:26:29 PM

That wouldn't surprise me....

8/7/2023 11:27:54 AM

Bump for Special Counsel!

8/11/2023 6:53:48 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, we got him!!!

8/11/2023 7:12:48 PM

Dueling Special Counsels!

8/11/2023 7:23:43 PM

I feel bad for Joe Biden honestly. His other kid seemed like a really stand up dude

8/11/2023 10:31:09 PM

Yeah, Hunter is a fuck up. Tough deal about parental love being unconditional.

8/12/2023 6:34:57 AM

You’d think republicans would be all about a prodigal son

8/12/2023 8:39:04 AM

That story requires one to change their ways and show contrition, not keep running hookers and blow.

8/12/2023 11:14:11 AM

RLP

Pedo Pete

8/17/2023 9:52:51 PM

I don't use gifs much in TSB but

8/18/2023 10:02:58 AM

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"Biden's age has become such a trope in coverage that even when he undertakes a whirlwind diplomatic tour and a 40 minute press conference, these are the headlines. Actual demonstration of his fitness is used to raise questions about his fitness. All of this is a choice."

https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1701223034554912994

9/12/2023 7:36:30 AM

Does seem unfair Biden is basically the same age as trump and media doesn’t harp about trumps age.

9/12/2023 9:49:04 AM

Obviously. Because Trump has that youthful blonde hair and glowing skin.

9/12/2023 10:48:25 AM

Trump is stupid in a very different way that allows him to be more charismatic, to certain people

9/12/2023 12:42:06 PM

Can someone who is following more closely explain to me what the impeachment is over? As best as I can tell, it's because he possibly profited off his son's business dealings while he was VP. But as far as I can tell, so far it's just speculation and accusations, and no proof? Or am I living in an echo-chamber?

9/12/2023 6:49:03 PM

He hasn't been impeached. The extreme House conservatives just smashed McCarthy's balls until he agreed to authorize an impeachment inquiry. The full House has to vote on impeachment itself.

9/12/2023 6:57:39 PM

I don't know the details, but there was that Devon Archer guy testifying.
He was an aide of Hunter Biden.

9/12/2023 6:57:42 PM

Key Witness Doesn’t Back Up G.O.P.’s Biggest Allegations on Bidens

https://tinyurl.com/bdd22xmv

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"The testimony of Devon Archer, a Hunter Biden associate, paints an unflattering portrait of Hunter’s business dealings, but contradicts reports of bribes or material involvement by the president."

Kevin McCarthy's still using Devon Archer's testimony, though, as a reason to initiate this impeachment inquiry.

[Edited on September 12, 2023 at 8:17 PM. Reason : ]

9/12/2023 8:12:35 PM

Big question: Republicans would rather have Kamala Harris?? Or they've got her investigation next in the q? How many impeachments before they get to Mccarthy as president

9/13/2023 1:07:49 PM

As you may be aware from recent events, impeachments don't remove the president.

9/13/2023 2:05:08 PM