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justinh524
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People losing their minds over Mighty Ducks

7/8/2020 4:23:27 PM

Flyin Ryan
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"Miranda definitely took some historical liberties, but I wonder if teachers won't be frustrated by some of the inaccuracies in a few years as more kids/teens see this movie and mistake the play for being 100% factual?"


Do teachers really teach about Hamilton the man outside of a very in-depth discussion about the country's early history? I think the number of school kids/teens that can name statesmen that were not president pre-Andrew Jackson is pretty low. "There's Ben Franklin, that Hamilton guy, Sam Adams has a beer named after him, uhhh...John Hancock - the Donald Trump of the era".

To your point, not exactly new, Selma sought to downplay LBJ's role a lot didn't it?

[Edited on July 9, 2020 at 1:00 PM. Reason : /]

7/9/2020 12:55:04 PM

marko
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Fess Parker's Davey Crockett is also on Disney+

Probably much less factual than Hamilton.

7/9/2020 2:02:04 PM

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"To your point, not exactly new, Selma sought to downplay LBJ's role a lot didn't it?"


Oh absolutely not, this has been a problem for a long time with basically any historical movie where liabilities are taken.

But to go with your example of Selma. So let's jump 5 years down the road and you poll the kids that are in the 8th-12th grade at that point, what % do you think will have seen Hamilton(and/or listened to the soundtrack) and what % do you think will have seen Selma? My guess is 60-70% will have seen or heard Hamilton and maybe 20-25% will have seen Selma.

It reminds me back when ig movies like Titanic or Saving Private Ryan came out and everyone saw those movies several times and felt like historical buffs.

7/9/2020 2:20:20 PM

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I actually never watched Saving Private Ryan from beginning to the end. Usually stopped at the opening scene of Normandy landings and couldn’t continue. Watched Forest Gump many times tho.

7/9/2020 2:39:39 PM

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"Do teachers really teach about Hamilton the man outside of a very in-depth discussion about the country's early history?"


I knew about Hamilton's efforts with the national reserve, and I knew that Burr killed him in a duel. That was it.

I also knew far more about John Jay than the musical mentioned, but other than him and Franklin yeah I don't think I can name another significant non-president until Henry Clay.

7/9/2020 6:58:19 PM

justinh524
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Hamilton is much more true to life than Rudy, which is almost completely fictional.

7/9/2020 9:21:54 PM

BigMan157
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i knew about hamilton and burr from a milk commercial

7/9/2020 9:33:45 PM

LudaChris
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"i knew about hamilton and burr from a milk commercial"


Still can't believe that dude lost the radio contest.

7/9/2020 10:08:05 PM

StingrayRush
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Lol I literally re-enacted this to my boss whom had never seen it.

7/9/2020 10:15:01 PM

bdmazur
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That was the very first got milk commercial, and it was directed by Michael Bay. That's insane.

7/10/2020 6:48:40 PM

Flyin Ryan
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"I also knew far more about John Jay than the musical mentioned, but other than him and Franklin yeah I don't think I can name another significant non-president until Henry Clay."


Hamilton might be the only Federalist I can name other than John Adams. Supreme Court Justice John Marshall was a Federalist, but he didn't serve in Congress or was a statesman of course.

Thinking of random others that did not become president without using the benefit of the internet (not counting Burr of course, history's most famous vice president that never became president):

Daniel Webster
Elbridge Gerry (from whom we get the term gerrymander when he had a district drawn in his state of Massachusetts to ensure the election of a person from his party, the district was drawn in a political cartoon to resemble a salamander, Gerry died in office as vice president, I think for during Madison's term)
another VP that died in office, George Clinton
I think there was a Charles Pinckney although I can't tell you anything about what he did.

I have a book at home of the Constitution and writings of the era including the Federalist Papers that I want to read through at some point.

[Edited on July 13, 2020 at 12:50 PM. Reason : /]

7/13/2020 12:46:34 PM

bdmazur
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Pinkney was the Federalist candidate for president twice (lost once to Jefferson, once to Madison).

7/13/2020 2:46:34 PM

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"Well it can brainwash global citizens, not Americans.
Just like Maoism in the 20th century. First born in China, then exported to the world. Many foreigners became believers.

this is the dumbest timeline."


Check this out----

7/23/2020 11:20:23 AM

shoot
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I agree it is dumb b/c it’s like a fake of Taoism....

7/23/2020 1:59:40 PM

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incredible

3/18/2021 4:22:28 PM

rwoody
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Not sure where to post but this looks Dope
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"Enter the multiverse of unlimited possibilities. Marvel Studios' first animated series, What If...?, starts streaming August 11 with new episodes Wednesdays on @DisneyPlus. @WhatIfOfficial https://t.co/MksL2Wa8B9"


Also Loki plot is good but I don't know if Hiddleston kinda sucks or if he's mailing it in a little, especially action scenes.

7/8/2021 5:31:30 PM

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There’s a part of me that agrees with you, but another part telling me that he’s the same as he’s always been and that character lends itself well to small doses in movies but not so well to this much focus

7/8/2021 6:45:08 PM

rwoody
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Yea, I feel like I liked him more in other roles, but maybe those are roles that weren't necessarily supposed to be charismatic

7/8/2021 7:44:54 PM

rwoody
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SEMI SPOILERS FOR LOKI






It's kinda funny that the finale is essentially just 30 min of spoken exposition






SPOILER OVER

7/14/2021 9:43:01 PM

rjrumfel
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The indiewire review also took umbrage at all the exposition. In the last episode as well as all the others. I'm looking forward to more of the person they revealed at the end.

7/14/2021 11:24:49 PM

Money_Jones
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^^i think it was pretty impressive. It was exactly what you described, but I still found it quite engaging, compelling, and entertaining.

^not sure if you are just being vague with your wording to avoid typing spoilers, or if you don’t actually know who that is

7/15/2021 9:32:40 PM

rjrumfel
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Purposefully vague.

7/15/2021 10:52:18 PM

rwoody
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^^I'm not mad at it just a pretty big departure for a Marvel climax

7/15/2021 11:56:55 PM

Elwood
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It was more like a Game of thrones, where the main event is really the 2nd to last ep. and they setup next season with a few WTFs in the last ep.

7/16/2021 9:00:55 AM

rjrumfel
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Nothing about Hawkeye? Geesh.

9/14/2021 1:38:59 PM

Money_Jones
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What’s there to say? Was a mediocre trailer for a lower tier character. I’ll also definitely be watching it.

9/14/2021 6:21:10 PM

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If they actually made a Marvel Christmas comedy, I'm here for it.

9/15/2021 7:30:26 PM

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