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fatcatt316
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^^^ The vaccine's ready now, I teamed up with those two guys that invented the system that kills 99.9% of COVID-19, and we knocked out a vaccine in a weekend. Anyone want some?

6/23/2020 9:09:16 PM

horosho
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No one ever attempted to stop the spread. Why were planes still flying in March and April? Each state should have closed its borders. The government took the lockdown as an opportunity to pad their friends pockets. We could have closed the non grocery part of walmart and made people have a list and a day of the week to be out and put checkpoints on all major roads.

6/24/2020 2:51:42 AM

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literally everything you just described is racist. try again.

6/24/2020 8:04:15 AM

fatcatt316
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^^ Yep, but there was no federal-level leadership on this, so different governors did different things, and now here we are.

6/24/2020 9:42:37 AM

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^^^^the vaccine won’t be there at least after 150 days according to Contagion the movie. So you are lying

6/24/2020 9:54:24 AM

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FL positive % rate today was 20! Jesus Christ.

From the data there, at least, the mean age is quite a bit lower than nationwide so while deaths will certainly spike I don’t think it will ever reach the rates we saw in the Tri-State area unless something dramatic happens.

The nationwide trends are ugggllllyyyyy right now, though, and quite worrying.

6/24/2020 2:29:19 PM

thegoodlife3
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the national media needs to start doing a better job discussing the potential long-term after effects

I’ve read some scary stuff

6/24/2020 2:36:11 PM

NyM410
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Right.

Paolo Dybala from Juventus talked about his experience at length and he essentially said it was hell going through and even as Serie A starter again he didn’t feel close to 100%... and he’s a 20-something world class athlete.

Nuance is lost on a lot but just because this thing isn’t killing people in their 20s and 30s at high rates we have no idea of the long-term effects... especially for those who have something even as prevelant as asthma.

6/24/2020 2:40:51 PM

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3 weeks of extension of phase 2 statewide. It sucks.

[Edited on June 24, 2020 at 5:37 PM. Reason : ;]

6/24/2020 5:20:21 PM

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3 weeks* from Friday

6/24/2020 5:36:12 PM

bellrabbit
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39,000+ cases nationwide today, 2400ish in NC. Both numbers are new highs.

6/25/2020 12:43:12 AM

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"To all COVID-deniers who claim that our COVID increase is from testing.

Top 10 (last 2 weeks)
Cases Tests
FL. 71%. -12%
AZ. 72%. 25%
NV. 50%. -28%
OK. 53%. 125%
ID. 83%. 17%
SC. 169%. 43%
GA. 55%. 17%
UT. 39%. -10%
TX. 78%. 25%
KS. 48%. 7%"

6/25/2020 7:53:14 PM

bellrabbit
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holy shit, 40k new cases nationwide today.

6/25/2020 9:51:56 PM

UJustWait84
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oh yeah? Well, I heard deaths are going DOWN, not up, so...

6/25/2020 10:12:08 PM

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Something I don’t see people talking about... but the excess mortality rate is almost back to normal in the country and most states. What’s the deal with that? Is it bad data? It would imply that outside coronavirus less people are dying.

6/25/2020 10:26:19 PM

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Fewer passenger miles, probably fewer risky activities

6/26/2020 12:03:58 AM

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Also probably cases right now are much more distributed across the country and overall healthcare system. Before you had cases crammed into very small high population areas like NYC and they immediately overwhelmed the local hospitals. I think shit is going to turn bad when the hospitals start running out of space again.

Additionally the primary group that is testing positive is "our" age range, the 25-44 range. I'm sure that some folks that are obese, have asthma, etc are having to be hospitalized, but I'm guessing more of these patients are treated and then released shortly after. Before it was a lot of the older people going in and having extended recoveries or passing away. With many people ignoring social distancing and mask guidelines I'm concerned this younger population will share it with their parents and older people in the community and that will also push up the mortality rate in the coming weeks.

6/26/2020 7:44:09 AM

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"oh yeah? Well, I heard deaths are going DOWN, not up, so..."


In April the only people getting tested were old people on the edge of death. Coupled with the clusters in nursing home it makes sense that deaths could go down now but rate of infections way up as the death rate regresses to the mean. Since testing has expanded to include the young population as well.

[Edited on June 26, 2020 at 8:34 AM. Reason : -]

6/26/2020 8:27:12 AM

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Lol the White House still has a Rona task force?

6/26/2020 10:01:48 AM

moron
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^^^ Apple and Tesla shows mobility data saying people are 90% traveling as much as they had been.

I’m thinking it’s incomplete data or all the old people died early that were about to die anyway and now there’s fewer deaths as a result.

6/26/2020 10:51:28 AM

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""When you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases. So I said to my people, 'Slow the testing down, please.'""


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""No, he has not directed that," McEnany said. She added that "any suggestion that testing has been curtailed is not rooted in fact."

"It was a comment that he made in jest," she said."


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"But on Tuesday, Trump said he does not joke.

"I don’t kid," Trump told reporters outside the White House Tuesday, en route to speak to young supporters at a megachurch and visit the U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona, a coronavirus hotspot"


https://www.modernhealthcare.com/government/hhs-fema-end-funding-13-covid-19-test-sites

6/26/2020 11:08:14 AM

TreeTwista10
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Texas re-closes bars etc

6/26/2020 12:18:25 PM

UJustWait84
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"In April the only people getting tested were old people on the edge of death. Coupled with the clusters in nursing home it makes sense that deaths could go down now but rate of infections way up as the death rate regresses to the mean. Since testing has expanded to include the young population as well.
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Was trying to be sarcastic, but this reply is helpful to those not smart enough to understand how math works (i.e deaths go up AFTER infections peak).

Also, rising numbers of young people getting infected isn't a good sign either. It shows that the virus is super contagious, and young people are usually asymptomatic, meaning they're likely 'super spreaders,' who will pass it on to those old people who were spared the first time.

There is literally no 'good' way to spin this.



[Edited on June 26, 2020 at 12:49 PM. Reason : .]

6/26/2020 12:47:32 PM

TreeTwista10
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just got back from the Teeter. saw probably 20-25 people in the store over the course of my short visit, and only 1 of them didn't have a mask on

6/26/2020 8:09:56 PM

quiksilver
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Fatcaf is it purple drank because that’s what I’ve been using and I think it’s working.

6/27/2020 7:20:20 AM

JT3bucky
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New flu found in China in pigs that can transmit to humans E4 H1N1.

Pandemic level type flu strain.

6/29/2020 7:56:16 PM

horosho
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another reason to defund the police

6/29/2020 9:16:14 PM

NyM410
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" Also, rising numbers of young people getting infected isn't a good sign either. It shows that the virus is super contagious, and young people are usually asymptomatic, meaning they're likely 'super spreaders,' who will pass it on to those old people who were spared the first time. "


I’m leaning this way but I’m still not sure. The positive test % rate is downright scary in a lot of places right now but we are essentially 10-15 days out from the initial move up and have yet to see an uptick in fatalities. At least a bit of one is coming but how much we still really don’t know.

I’ll say it’s pathetic and egregious that the federal government has all but given up on any kind of unified response..

7/1/2020 12:58:36 PM

thegoodlife3
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anybody else watch the 60 Minutes exposé on antibody tests last Sunday?

an absurd amount was spent and wasted on shoddy tests because the FDA waved almost all of the normal regulations on testing

wasted money and an even more dangerous false sense of security for people who took them and thought they were in the clear

7/1/2020 1:38:32 PM

The Coz
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Not surprising.

China wins again.

7/1/2020 1:45:57 PM

Wraith
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Friend of mine's grandfather passed away from it.

Two other close friends recently tested positive and it is likely that their significant others have it too.

7/1/2020 2:04:25 PM

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^3 I believe deaths aren’t merely a factor of time since contacting the virus. It is also a factor of hospital resourcing. During the winter there was flu and other factors impacting available capacity and no one was optimizing resourcing for something novel. That has all since changed, so deaths should go up but be less extreme than they were the first time around. Deaths should start to come full force again if/when hospitals are overwhelmed.

Still, we shouldn’t expect the same death rate. Earlier on there were tons of nursing homes that were hit and now those places are on extreme lockdown. The impact there certainly skewed the death rates upward, so we should see an upward trend but at lower peaks than before.

7/1/2020 2:06:35 PM

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"The positive test % rate is downright scary in a lot of places right now but we are essentially 10-15 days out from the initial move up and have yet to see an uptick in fatalities. At least a bit of one is coming but how much we still really don’t know.
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Models suggesting anywhere from 135k dead to 200k+ dead ( ) by the end of July. A massive spread in predictions, but the high side would be a god damn nightmare.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/covid-forecasts/

[Edited on July 1, 2020 at 2:10 PM. Reason : Forgot the link]

7/1/2020 2:07:50 PM

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There's no evidence to date that durable immunity to SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is possible. Has anyone put any thought into what the future looks like if that's the case? Maybe we all just get our Covid shot every year or every few months and just go and live our lives. Maybe people just won't live into their 80s anymore. Maybe the virus will continue to mutate into something more benign that we can all live with.

7/1/2020 2:13:34 PM

horosho
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^If DNA vaccine works, my guess would be to try gene therapy



[Edited on July 1, 2020 at 3:41 PM. Reason : we need to switch over to designer babies ]

7/1/2020 3:39:19 PM

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-students-throwing-covid-parties-infected-officials/story?id=71552514

SEC! SEC! SEC!

7/2/2020 1:18:46 PM

StTexan
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Tex governor signs order that requires masks in almost all of texas

7/2/2020 4:55:28 PM

horosho
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The cases graph the media keeps showing to hype up the new spread of the virus is a dishonest/extraneous graph and they won't even mention the death count anymore so people would be surprised to hear the death rate has been on the decline this whole time.



[Edited on July 5, 2020 at 4:49 AM. Reason : help]

7/5/2020 4:48:12 AM

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Do you get your talking points from Hannity, Twitter or Tucker?

7/5/2020 8:35:06 AM

rwoody
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"The trillion dollar question. Why are COVID cases increasing while deaths are decreasing? The answer is simple. It's called Simpson's paradox and it's the result of incorrectly pooling data and arriving at a false conclusion. A thread 1/9 #COVID19 #ThursdayThoughts"

https://twitter.com/mbeckett/status/1278750652160634880?s=19

7/5/2020 11:21:43 AM

TreeTwista10
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only Earl would describe new cases as extraneous

7/5/2020 12:20:10 PM

horosho
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Yet the media is pooling case data without regard by shoving the total us cases graph down our throats constantly and implying the situation is currently worse than its ever been. That graph is extraneous because they are comparing case totals on days with completely different means for measuring cases. When using a graph like that, everything should be measured the same way for each day in the graph.
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My artisan talking points are made fresh in house each day with only the finest ingredients and locally sourced facts.

7/5/2020 2:25:01 PM

rwoody
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Some minor positives,

Don Jr's gf tested positive this weekend and he had to miss daddy's parties

Now bolsonaro tested positive, lol fuck that guy

[Edited on July 6, 2020 at 9:56 PM. Reason : E]

7/6/2020 9:56:05 PM

The Coz
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Indeed.

7/6/2020 10:02:26 PM

horosho
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And the 7 day average for deaths in the US reached ANOTHER consecutive low meaning it has now been on the steady decline since April 23rd and is currently at its lowest level since March 30th. When will it go up again?

7/6/2020 10:08:35 PM

TreeTwista10
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hopefully not until the weather gets cooler, but at minimum i expect a spike in cases in 1-2 weeks from people wilin out over July 4th

7/6/2020 10:11:28 PM

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https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/07/888137097/brazilian-president-jair-bolsonaro-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

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"The Brazilian president, who has consistently downplayed the dangers of the virus, revealed his positive test result during nationally televised remarks Tuesday. "It came back positive," he told reporters from behind a mask.

He is just the second major world leader, after British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, to confirm he contracted the virus.

With more than 1.6 million confirmed cases as of Tuesday, Brazil is in the throes of the world's second-largest outbreak, behind only the U.S. More than 65,000 people there have died of complications linked with COVID-19 — a towering death toll that again stands second only to that of the U.S. And because of a significant lag in testing, Brazilian researchers believe the real numbers are much, much higher than the official tallies.

Yet Bolsonaro, 65, has repeatedly doubted the severity of the virus since it first found a foothold in Brazil, reportedly in late February. A key ally of U.S. President Trump, the right-wing Brazilian leader has called the coronavirus "a little flu," accused the media of hysteria and campaigned against the shutdowns implemented by local leaders.

"I'm sorry," Bolsonaro said in April, after the country's death toll reached 5,000, "but what do you want me to do about it?"

Tens of thousands of deaths later, Bolsonaro has remained firmly supportive of reopening and skeptical of social distancing, both for others and himself.

Last week, he vetoed legislation that would have mandated the use of face masks in schools, churches and businesses. During a luncheon hosted last Saturday by the U.S. ambassador in Brazil, the Bolsonaro was photographed embracing his foreign affairs minister, flashing a smile and a thumbs-up.

The American ambassador, Todd Chapman, was seated on the other side of the president. Neither Bolsonaro nor Chapman nor any of the other men in the image was wearing a mask."

7/7/2020 12:18:38 PM

JT3bucky
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Should that read "were wearing" instead of was wearing?

7/7/2020 1:32:59 PM

fatcatt316
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"Fatcaf is it purple drank because that’s what I’ve been using and I think it’s working."


It's that plus a secret ingredient

7/7/2020 2:06:17 PM

The Coz
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^^Don't think so.

^^^Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Well, I could probably think of one.

7/7/2020 3:17:29 PM

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