The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I know people that are very concerned about both" |
Where dey at?]10/15/2021 4:19:47 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I know people that are very concerned about both" |
Well, we already DO know the long term effects of "long COVID" (hint: they're NOT good!), and based on what we know about vaccine side effects, the vaccine poses far less threat to people's immediate health.
We do not have a crystal ball, and perhaps down the road our understanding of the vaccine and its long term effects will change, but you can't just equivocate what we do/don't/may not ever know and act as if they're equally valid concerns.
Sigh. Critical thinking really has been lost in this debate. Sad.
Also, your friends sound like worry warts/pussies.10/15/2021 4:25:52 PM |
Walter All American 7775 Posts user info edit post |
I refuse to be injected with the Bill Gates mind control poison. No thanks...you sheep can pump as much of that shit into your body as you want. 10/16/2021 10:27:47 AM |
Walter All American 7775 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/14/exclusive-sen-ron-johnson-presses-biden-to-monitor-alarming-adverse-reactions-to-coronavirus-vaccines/ 10/16/2021 10:28:37 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26151 Posts user info edit post |
10/16/2021 11:03:32 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25618 Posts user info edit post |
Breitbart lol 10/16/2021 11:10:25 AM |
Walter All American 7775 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.oann.com/covid-vaccine-deaths-top-9k-cdc-and-european-regulators-investigate-potentially-deadly-heart-inflammation/ 10/16/2021 12:41:18 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25618 Posts user info edit post |
That’s more like it. 10/16/2021 1:18:24 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8787 Posts user info edit post |
Infowars 10/16/2021 3:18:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148496 Posts user info edit post |
mY bUdDy DiEd In A CaR wReCk AnD tHe DeAtH cErTiFiCaTe SaId He DiEd FrOm ThE vAcCiNe
[Edited on October 16, 2021 at 3:59 PM. Reason : the govt pays the hospitals to over-inflate vaccine death numbers] 10/16/2021 3:58:58 PM |
Walter All American 7775 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on October 16, 2021 at 7:29 PM. Reason : .] 10/16/2021 7:28:49 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7102 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "mY bUdDy DiEd In A CaR wReCk AnD tHe DeAtH cErTiFiCaTe SaId He DiEd FrOm ThE vAcCiNe" |
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/
But there are many COVID patients in the hospital with fairly mild symptoms, too, who have been admitted for further observation on account of their comorbidities, or because they reported feeling short of breath. Another portion of the patients in this tally are in the hospital for something unrelated to COVID, and discovered that they were infected only because they were tested upon admission.10/16/2021 10:50:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148496 Posts user info edit post |
does posting in this thread mean that you've received your Fauci Ouchie since the FDA has approved it?
luckily only about 1 of every 675,000 people to receive a vaccine shot have died from it. hard to beat those odds.
[Edited on October 16, 2021 at 11:29 PM. Reason : .] 10/16/2021 11:27:57 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7102 Posts user info edit post |
^ seems like the same as my death rate of getting covid.
Still no covid. Caught the RSV when covid cases were zero in my county about 3 months ago. Got an antibody test and alas. No coof. 10/16/2021 11:36:09 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26151 Posts user info edit post |
Why don't you just admit you never intended to get it under any circumstance and never will. 10/17/2021 12:39:12 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37770 Posts user info edit post |
He lives to further move the goalposts 10/17/2021 11:20:36 AM |
CaelNCSU All American 7102 Posts user info edit post |
Want to talk about moving goal posts: https://mobile.twitter.com/ke11ybender/status/1448936949012578304
99% effective herd immunity. No we mean 92%, no maybe 60%. Oops maybe 40%. Oh it spreads in vaccinated just like it does in unvaccinated. Oh we never said herd immunity it was only to reduce severity of symptoms... 10/17/2021 1:02:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148496 Posts user info edit post |
remember when you said you weren't an anti-vaxxer 10/17/2021 1:13:42 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7102 Posts user info edit post |
Got a TDAP and a flu shot in August. Maybe you're a. Anti vaxxer since you aren't up on Tetnus or Pertussis?
[Edited on October 17, 2021 at 1:16 PM. Reason : A ] 10/17/2021 1:15:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148496 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not the one sharing twitter links from conspiracy theorists
and before you say the source doesn't matter because it's Fauci talking, you mean to tell me medical experts' opinions have evolved as more information was made available? that's how science works
[Edited on October 17, 2021 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .] 10/17/2021 1:18:02 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7102 Posts user info edit post |
So you are claiming that the goal posts haven't shifted and we'd just have herd immunity if everyone was spike protein vaccinated? 10/17/2021 1:30:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148496 Posts user info edit post |
Something Fauci said in early 2020 before we knew a lot about the virus might not be what the consensus is in 2021 with much more data available. These "but Fauci said this in March of 2020!" gotcha statements show a lack of understanding of the scientific method. 10/17/2021 1:31:47 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26151 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, remember when the early statements in that "genius" video compilation were made before the evolution and predomination of the Delta variant upon which the vaccines are universally less effective? It's almost as if his statements were made in context with the best available scientific data and circumstances at the time. 10/17/2021 1:38:35 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7102 Posts user info edit post |
There are articles from April of this year claiming it would be eradicated, and some by Fauci. Yeah science updates but that works both ways. Now the science says the vax isn't effective.
I bought the argument to take the vax if you have to be in an office or around people in large quantities indoors. Largely because of what all of you were arguing in April about saving grandma. That argument is now totally moot.
Every single person I worked with at my last job was vaccinated and every single one of them contracted covid over the summer. None of them were hospitalized but they are mostly under mid 40s. Maybe it helped? Maybe not.
Maybe the hospitals are overwhelmed, but the data on that looks shoddy as their revenues are way down. They had over a year to prepare, better treatment, and a miracle vax. An industry with 20% of GDP allocated to it can't handle 1 in 1300 patients. Fine. Burn it the fuck down. Rebuild something else that doesn't charge $9 per tablet for Tums.
They don't even distinguish Delta vs not when someone has a breakthrough. There no data to my knowledge that you can point to. Israel had lots of Delta going around and lots of breakthroughs. I don't believe they actually tested each breakthrough specifically. I know we don't do that here.
[Edited on October 17, 2021 at 1:44 PM. Reason : A ] 10/17/2021 1:39:12 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7102 Posts user info edit post |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BWKNtyQK64U&feature=emb_title
Quote : | "BILL MAHER: I have to cite a survey that was in The New York Times, which is a liberal paper so they weren't looking for this answer. But they were talking about -- the question was, ‘What do you think the chances are that you would have to go to the hospital if you got COVID?' And Democrats thought that was way higher than Republicans. 41% of Democrats -- and the answer is between 1% and 5% -- 41% of Democrats thought it was over 50%. Another 28% thought it was 20% to 49%. 70% of Democrats thought it was way, way, way higher than it really was. Liberal media has to take a little responsibility for that, for scaring the shit out of people" |
10/17/2021 1:50:54 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26151 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe liberal media should take credit for that and Fox News should take credit for killing their viewers. 10/17/2021 2:24:50 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7102 Posts user info edit post |
https://archive.is/2ufFP
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/opinion/covid-vaccines-unvaccinated.html
Chapel Hill represent.
Quote : | " Almost 95 percent of those over 65 in the United States have received at least one dose. This is a remarkable number, given that polling has shown that this age group is prone to online misinformation, is heavily represented among Fox News viewers and is more likely to vote Republican. Clearly, misinformation is not destiny. " |
Considering 95% of the over 65 crowd is vaxxed that's kind of telling. Median Fox viewer age is just a bit lower than median covid death.
Quote : | "In New York, for example, only 42 percent of African Americans of all ages (and 49 percent among adults) are fully vaccinated — the lowest rate among all demographic groups tracked by the city. This is another area in which the dominant image of the white, QAnon-spouting, Tucker Carlson-watching conspiracist anti-vaxxer dying to own the libs is so damaging. It can lead us to ignore the problem of racialized health inequities with deep historic roots but also ongoing repercussions, and prevent us from understanding that there are different kinds of vaccine hesitancy, which require different approaches." |
[Edited on October 17, 2021 at 2:35 PM. Reason : A ]10/17/2021 2:30:51 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37770 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When the FDA gives it an official stamp or it's been about a year I will consider an MRNA one." |
10/17/2021 3:28:40 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26151 Posts user info edit post |
Considered and decided against, apparently. The vaccine doesn't work, y'all! It's not 100% prevention of infection, so it has no utility. Unlike the flu shot which we know works every time! 10/17/2021 4:06:39 PM |
moron All American 34156 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ 75% of republicans got the answer wrong too (vs 90% of democrats)
Ppl are bad at weighing risks in general... chances of dying from covid are higher than your chances of getting robbed while youre at home, yet people still fear the latter far more than the former. Police are far more likely to get killed from covid than an attacker, yet they will fight to the death to keep guns on them and to have qualified immunity, while staunchly resisting getting vaccinated.
I thing we were doomed on this issue from the beginning by not having great marketing people in charge of messaging. Sticking a non-politician like Fauci in front of cameras from day 1 was not a good idea.
^^^^ https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/vaccine-demographic-data
Seems slightly outdated. 54% of AfAm are vaccinated vs 61% of whites in NY, vs 98% of "Asians" (who are almost equal to the black population in NY by number) & 80% of "Latinos"
Black and white americans both need to get it together
[Edited on October 17, 2021 at 4:58 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2021 4:45:38 PM |
Walter All American 7775 Posts user info edit post |
CaelNCSU is a moron 10/17/2021 10:38:08 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Every village has an idiot. 10/18/2021 10:24:10 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I got the booster and a flu shot earlier this morning and I feel totally normal. 10/18/2021 5:31:51 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27927 Posts user info edit post |
I heard of you get both of those at the same time it makes your nuts fall off 10/18/2021 6:17:45 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37770 Posts user info edit post |
No worries for UJW
(GOT EM!!!) 10/18/2021 6:47:22 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8787 Posts user info edit post |
Should I get a boosta? 11/9/2021 4:53:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25618 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah sure why not
Got my booster last week at CVS. Sore arm but all good. 11/9/2021 6:48:23 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12526 Posts user info edit post |
Those that have gotten the booster, did you mix up the type? It seems like cdc website says you can, but when i was looking for appointments online at Walgreens, the site said cdc recommends staying with the same type 11/9/2021 6:52:34 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43412 Posts user info edit post |
I mixed. J&J back in April. Moderna 2 weeks ago.
Zero side effects either time. 11/10/2021 2:56:39 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25618 Posts user info edit post |
I got moderna across the board. 11/10/2021 3:45:13 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26151 Posts user info edit post |
Seems like Moderna is best. If you got Moderna, stick with it. If you didn't, consider it. I'm 3X Pfizer, and I feel slightly cheated. But not as much as those J&J dopes. 11/10/2021 4:59:03 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
52 hrs after my Moderna booster + flu shot combo and I still have a 100 deg fever. Idk if it was the combo or not but would not recommend
[Edited on November 12, 2021 at 7:44 PM. Reason : .] 11/12/2021 7:42:28 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8787 Posts user info edit post |
You may have fucked up 11/12/2021 8:29:38 PM |
StTexan Let Trump cook! 7229 Posts user info edit post |
Only cheated folks are the willingly unvaccinated ppl. 11/13/2021 1:12:41 AM |
Cabbage All American 2088 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Here's some expert advice from Twitter:
11/13/2021 2:15:55 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37770 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^I tried pedialyte but booster/flu still kicking my ass 11/27/2021 8:52:16 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25618 Posts user info edit post |
I waited about 4 days between them just for that reason. 11/27/2021 9:11:09 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37770 Posts user info edit post |
Damn no heads up?? Smh 11/28/2021 3:24:48 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
tried to tell yall!! 11/28/2021 7:07:33 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42542 Posts user info edit post |
so covid+flu vaccines is a thing?
why?
that sounds insane and just ill-informed. 11/29/2021 3:33:38 AM |