rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
Did the Warriors offer him a supermax?
NM they did. Maybe having teammates that didn't appreciate him and (maybe) a front office that threw him under the bus for a injuries didn't help.
Must be some big issues to leave all that cash on the table.
[Edited on July 1, 2019 at 10:50 AM. Reason : R]
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UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
The Knicks are a terrible franchise for a host of reasons. Talking heads may have wanted KD to go there, but he made the wiser choice, without a doubt.
^ you do realize KD is the reason the Ws got Dlo instead of nothing, right?
Seems to me that KD wanted to in NY and to play with his friends, so he chose the better setup. It doesn’t sound like Rocket science to me...
[Edited on July 1, 2019 at 10:56 AM. Reason : .] 7/1/2019 10:52:24 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Talking heads may have wanted KD to go there" |
7/1/2019 10:57:21 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Dude just admit you were wrong. It’s OK. 7/1/2019 11:01:35 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Seems like it was just last page I was reading this funny shit:
Quote : | "Kinda think that if KD wanted out so badly, he would've already decided by now. Same with Kawhi.
He will make so much more if he stays" | ]7/1/2019 1:19:00 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Brooklyn has always made more sense since they have more pieces, but unless KD's always been dying to be a Knick, I don't get it" |
Quote : | "Nah.
He’s either staying a W so he can join the likes of Russel or he’ll wind up on an up-and-coming team like the Clippers or Nets. " |
Quote : | "fat chance. NYY are a garbage franchise with a ruthless media. Brooklyn makes a hell of a lot more sense.
also: it really depends on like 101011219192 factors. Do the Ws win? Does he even play? Where do other people sign?
I think it's a little dumb to buy into the media's narrative, because they have been so wrong about so many players recently. See: PG3, Kawhi, etc. Lebron going to LA was obvious, and that's the one thing people keep harping on.
KD is weird and sensitive and he's probably going to decide after the Finals, unlike other people who make up their minds way before the season even ends." |
7/1/2019 1:37:27 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you do realize KD is the reason the Ws got Dlo instead of nothing, right?" |
No.7/1/2019 1:59:35 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NYY are a garbage franchise with a ruthless media." |
this was a dumb point when you originally posted it and it’s even dumber now that you’re boasting about being right7/1/2019 2:18:28 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I bet you think the Knicks actually lowballed KD too
Sorry both you got played by the media. It happens sometimes.
[Edited on July 1, 2019 at 2:19 PM. Reason : .] 7/1/2019 2:18:42 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
You realize that media generally doesn't make stuff up. They write what their sources tell them. Rumor is now that Kyrie started working Durant a month or two back.
Also don't Nets and Knicks have same media?
Quote : | "you do realize KD is the reason the Ws got Dlo instead of nothing, right?" |
How so7/1/2019 2:49:22 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You realize that media generally doesn't make stuff up." |
Sports media =/= NYT/WaPo/NPR/etc. ESPN has been on the decline for several years, which is why SAS/Max make shit tons of money with hot takes. They got the story wrong.
Quote : | "Rumor is now that Kyrie started working Durant a month or two back." |
Rumor also had it that they decided to hatch the plan before the season even started. Either way, the media kept insisting KD to NYY was a done deal and it didn't happen.
Quote : | " Also don't Nets and Knicks have same media? " |
They do in the same sense that the Lakers and Clippers share the same media, but one franchise has 1000X more notoriety/exposure than the other. NYY fanbase was wayyyy bigger than the Nets (and much more valuable), even when they played in Jersey, but that's probably about to change real quick. If you want to compare SF/OAK for baseball, or Dodgers/LAA, the same thing applies- both teams being equal, one gets way more national (local too!) spotlight than the other. Or you could look right at the Jets/Giants if you wanna keep it NYC local. If KD and the Nets suck, it'll be tough in NY media, but I'd argue not nearly as bad as if he were a Knick. Guess we'll never know for sure, will we?
I don't buy into the "KD hates the Ws and management" narrative like some people. The Nets did the Ws a gigantic favor (and obv Dlo, too). If anything, Bob Myers should get all the credit, because the Ws at least got something as opposed to nothing (like OKC).
[Edited on July 1, 2019 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .]7/1/2019 3:22:54 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
I think maybe the difference is defining media as journalists, or expanding that to include SAS and the like, which is clearly entertainment/opinion. I don't think they're out there doing reporting. And frankly if you watch that type of stuff you deserve what you get. That said, I think betting odds favored KD to the Knicks. It was never locked in, but it probably wasn't as much of a longshot as you think. But like you say, we'll never know I guess.
As for the last part, I asked how KD got you Russell, you didn't answer that. 7/1/2019 3:45:01 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
He didn't, Myers did. I'd argue that if KD really hated the Ws, a scenario like that would never happen, but I don't have any definitive proof of it. Nets/Dubs fans seem plenty pleased with the arrangement, or at least I am 7/1/2019 3:58:57 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
So your post saying that KD is the reason why Russell came was a mistake? Typo?
And you just gave some credit to KD again, what do KDs feelings on the org have to do with Russell? 7/1/2019 4:10:40 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
When I wrote it, I thought KD was a huge reason the trade went through, since it seemed like an awfully great stroke of luck for the Ws. But after reading more about it and the details of the trade, there's no real proof he had anything to do with it, although I suspect he played some part. 7/1/2019 4:34:36 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
WHAT PART?? you keep throwing that out there but won't provide even the start of an idea of what part he played. 7/1/2019 5:01:43 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
dude’s making completely basis accusations while accusing media members (who are different than dedicated NBA writers/reporters) of making baseless accusations
par for the course, I guess
also curious why the Yankees keep being brought up in a discussion about the NBA 7/1/2019 5:17:44 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
action pic of UJW ITT
7/1/2019 5:39:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
KD brought D'angelo Russell to muh Dubs, but Jay-Z brought KD to the Nets
[Edited on July 1, 2019 at 5:59 PM. Reason : the Roc] 7/1/2019 5:58:51 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^Not really, no.
Still waiting for TGL and justin to admit they were wrong about KD going to the Knicks (NYK not NYY) I’m guessing that’ll never happen though. It’s tough to admit mistakes, but that’s what adults do.
^^ I’m hardly the only Ws fan who thought the same thing. The Nets gave the Ws a sweetheart deal, when they could’ve just kept KD and called it a day. Seems awfully coincidental. 7/1/2019 6:00:24 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
forgot to wear my psychic’s hat and not see that his achilles would blow up in the playoffs
a lot of people reporting that he would’ve gone to the Knicks had he not gotten injured. Kyrie, too. 7/1/2019 6:06:30 PM |
1985 All American 2175 Posts user info edit post |
mah blazers wheelin and dealin 7/1/2019 6:26:38 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^^ what part about the Knicks being a god awful franchise do you not understand? People bought into a story, reported it as if it were 100% true, and it didn’t happen. You’re dumb for doubling down on it. Read his IG/goodbye post and maybe you’ll finally get it. 7/1/2019 7:53:34 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Jesus man. He's not on the Warriors anymore, you can climb off anytime.
^Durant was definitely going to the Knicks but then Myers curry and Klay got together and said pretty please go to the Nets and get us their best player so he did that instead
[Edited on July 1, 2019 at 7:55 PM. Reason : E] 7/1/2019 7:53:56 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
Lmao. Warriors put out a glowing statement about Durant. Meanwhile iggy is still waiting. 7/1/2019 8:15:15 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and it didn’t happen." |
because he tore his fucking achilles and the Knicks lowballed him
how many times do you have to be told that the achilles injury changed everything?7/1/2019 8:34:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Nonsense, if the injury doesn't happen, he is 100% still a Dub and only a moran doesn't see that. 7/1/2019 9:21:16 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
The Knicks didn’t lowball him— they made that shit up and to try to save face because KD didn’t want to play there. Seriously, you’re incredibly stupid for thinking top talent would actually want to play there.
As for Iggy? You openly talk shit about your employer (justified or not) and then your ass gets dealt. He was pretty fortunate to have KD take a paycut so he could stay there. 7/1/2019 9:43:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
how is making your front office look like buffoons for not offering a superstar a max deal "saving face" 7/1/2019 9:49:41 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Believe whatever you want, and I’ll do the same. KD would’ve been a fool to play for the Knicks instead of joining and up and coming team, which is why he did what he did. 7/1/2019 9:52:40 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
the Knicks would’ve been just as up and coming had he and Kyrie chose there
they have a top-3 pick and a ton of cap space
Kyrie ended up choosing the Nets because he’d rather play with their more established roster this KD-less season
[Edited on July 1, 2019 at 10:25 PM. Reason : .] 7/1/2019 10:09:56 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
You’re forgetting the part about the Knicks having a terrible owner and a history of bad management that have make it a joke of a franchise for the past two decades, but keep going. 7/1/2019 10:52:12 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
You're delusional if you think the Knicks were never in the picture
Woj on sat
Quote : | "Story filed to ESPN: Golden State’s Kevin Durant is planning to engage four teams in discussions upon the opening of NBA free agency on Sunday – the Brooklyn Nets, Los Angeles Clippers, New York Knicks and Warriors, league sources tell ESPN." |
7/1/2019 11:02:08 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Nice strawman, but keep on keepin on. 7/1/2019 11:29:54 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
So you think kd is a fool for considering the Knicks?
If the Knicks were "in the picture" as my strawman claims, then kd was considering a foolish move. He ultimately chose otherwise, but still pretty foolish to even consider them if they are as obviously shit as you say right?
If I have 20 lunch options and I decide to consider 4 including a ham sandwich, soup a salad, or a piece of shit, I think i would be judged whether I ultimately choose the shit are not right?
Also, if he considered them, he wanted to play there, which is stupid to believe, so you're stupid.
Lmao just saw this
Quote : | "As for Iggy? You openly talk shit about your employer (justified or not) and then your ass gets dealt. He was pretty fortunate to have KD take a paycut so he could stay there." |
Lmao muh Dubs widely revered player and finals mvp is shit, the guy that left town willingly is a hero.
Man I wish we could play the last 4 seasons over without iggy on the Warriors. This iggy take shows how deep you are on Durant
[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 12:22 AM. Reason : Prove it]7/2/2019 12:13:06 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
*you’re 7/2/2019 12:17:42 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
Nice diversion, but keep on keepin on. 7/2/2019 12:22:25 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I have nothing but love for Iggy, but he saw the writing on the wall and did his thing on Twitter. Can’t say I blame him, but he’s def not having his number retired like KD is, that’s for sure.
I get that you’re all really upset/disappointed about being wrong about “KD to the Knicks. DONE DEAL” narrative that turned out to be incorrect, but I’m bored with it already. 7/2/2019 12:28:49 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
Nice strawman, but keep on keepin on. 7/2/2019 12:31:12 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Knicks didn’t lowball him— they made that shit up and to try to save face because KD didn’t want to play there. Seriously, you’re incredibly stupid for thinking top talent would actually want to play there" |
missed this earlier
jesus fucking christ, dude. this is absolutely Trumpian.7/2/2019 12:42:14 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I get that you’re all really upset/disappointed about being wrong about “KD to the Knicks. DONE DEAL” narrative that turned out to be incorrect" |
Yeah, the people who are the most upset are clearly the ones who weren't spot on with KD's destination well in advance, and not the people who are upset that their KD rental is over before they were ready.7/2/2019 1:56:40 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
wonder how deangelo mixes with stephen, don't know too much about his game, maybe they'd make him a 6 man and hope to have one of the best benches in the nba again 7/2/2019 7:45:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Zion vs Barrett tonight at 9:30pm on ESPN 7/5/2019 5:05:10 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
Clippers got Kawhi AND PG..... 7/6/2019 2:05:17 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
damn, from dynasty to 3rd best team in the state 7/6/2019 2:14:22 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
wow
Banana Boat reunion plans in full effect for the Lakers 7/6/2019 2:22:30 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Thunder got a shitload of picks 7/6/2019 2:34:14 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Kawhi is dumb. Shoulda signed with a better franchise like the Knicks. Why on earth wouldn’t he want to play with Lebron?!?! 7/6/2019 10:31:37 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
Lmao you are the best fan ever.
Muh clips are gonna whoop yer dubs 7/6/2019 11:46:52 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
^^
7/6/2019 11:59:10 AM |