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Bullet
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http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-36131

10/2/2017 12:29:13 PM

0EPII1
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"450+people got shot right?"


I don't know how the toll was reported in such erratic jumps, but 515 people did not get shot. 515 got injured because of the incident.

Stampedes and crushes in a small concentrated area can be deadlier/more injurious than bullets being shot into the crowd. Stampedes/crushes can (and have) kill/injure hundreds, even thousands, within minutes.

That's what must have happened to get such a high number of injured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stampede -- very interesting reading on difference between stampedes and crushes, and science of how they injure and kill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_stampedes

10/2/2017 12:53:51 PM

0EPII1
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^^ Spot on... that should be all over real (aka "fake") media, cuz it's true (even look at TWW posts), not on a satire site.

ISIS getting desperate:

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"Without providing any evidence to support the claim, the Daesh group on Monday said the gunman in the mass shooting in Las Vegas was “a soldier” from its ranks who had converted to Islam months ago.

Authorities have yet to identify a motive for the shooting, and said initially there was no evidence of any connection to international terrorism.

The group’s Aamaq news agency released two brief statements hours after the shooting at a country music concert that killed at least 58 people and wounded more than 500. It was the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.

But the FBI dismissed the Daesh claim. Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse said the bureau had found no connection between the shooter and the Daesh group.

The extremist group has a history of exaggerated or false claims, including earlier this year, when it claimed an attack on a casino in the Philippines that turned out to have been a botched robbery carried out by a heavily indebted gambling addict."

10/2/2017 1:06:59 PM

marko
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That hasn't stopped Drudge from running with that angle and getting the parrots to start squawking.

10/2/2017 1:24:27 PM

ssclark
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I'ts not even satire ^^ it's a legit critique on people in America... what do you do ?

10/2/2017 1:52:17 PM

TreeTwista10
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Wolfpack in the house



Also, looks like something runs in the family

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article176522691.html

[Edited on October 2, 2017 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2017 3:04:43 PM

Bullet
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Is he wearing a UNC shirt?

10/2/2017 3:05:37 PM

TreeTwista10
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Panthers

https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/10156075319866336/?hc_ref=ARTIZIdgGEPR0ChcclIAaFcezML0m0oMQtElFlQZAMQqcpHCrCN4Nv_r0BgrZ8sNjQU&pnref=story

10/2/2017 3:07:02 PM

ssclark
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close call, we may have had to excommunicate him :X

10/2/2017 3:55:50 PM

justinh524
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We should excommunicate him for going to a Jason Aldean concert.

10/2/2017 4:03:18 PM

Bullet
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not to be callous, but I wonder how many of the concert-goers were shit-faced when this happened

10/2/2017 4:11:48 PM

ssclark
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^^ touche`

10/2/2017 4:15:02 PM

scotieb24
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^^ I noticed in the videos and pics that a lot of people were still holding on to their drinks

10/2/2017 4:17:47 PM

0EPII1
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"The Las Vegas gunman had 19 rifles in his hotel room, two on tripods at the windows, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, an official said"


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting.html

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Deadliest mass shootings in US

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-attack-deadliest-us-mass-shooting-trnd/index.html

[Edited on October 2, 2017 at 4:29 PM. Reason : ]

10/2/2017 4:19:41 PM

EMCE
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I wonder how he got all of that shit, and got it into his room without anyone noticing

10/2/2017 4:30:45 PM

EMCE
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So, paddock was a multimillionaire??

10/2/2017 4:34:25 PM

GoldieO
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^ Coulda just been in debt like most of us.

^^^^ That's one of the first things I noticed in the pics/videos this morning, how many people were holding onto their plastic cups/bud light cans in the midst of the chaos. I like to think I could part with my half-empty bud light deuce deuce if I was in the same situation, but I'm not judging.

10/2/2017 4:39:35 PM

0EPII1
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Duh you hold on to it because you are going to need that shit when it calms down... you won't be able to buy any alcohol amid the chaos, so you gotta preserve yours.

10/2/2017 4:42:46 PM

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You'd be surprised what an experienced redneck can endure without dropping his beer.

10/2/2017 5:17:38 PM

TerdFerguson
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Festival beer in Vegas? Probably cost $30.

10/2/2017 5:22:29 PM

eleusis
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"I wonder how he got all of that shit, and got it into his room without anyone noticing"


I doubt anyone would have paid that much attention to a guy with 2-3 large suitcases in Vegas. Vegas also has a ton of shooting ranges around, so a person showing up with rifles probably isn't an uncommon site.

Was he staying in some sort of penthouse suite? the two busted out windows from the pictures I've seen appear to be at least 30' apart.

10/2/2017 5:28:32 PM

GoldieO
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I've seen video from a concert goer who allegedly stayed in the exact same suite in 2016 and it appears to have been a 2-room suite with a wall of windows.

10/2/2017 5:30:37 PM

EMCE
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Apparently the guy used to work for Lockheed Martin. Psychopath.

10/2/2017 5:39:46 PM

Doss2k
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The fact people couldn't figure out where it was coming from and so they all just layed down thinking that was the smart thing to do just made it so much worse in this situation. Watching all the videos its like watching people wanting to yell at them to get up and run now that you know where the shooter was.

10/2/2017 5:43:48 PM

UJustWait84
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http://www.sfgate.com/news/local/article/Josh-Abbott-Band-guitarist-says-crew-members-12246753.php

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""They were useless," he said. "We couldn't touch them for fear police might think that we were part of the massacre and shoot us."


As gunfire rained down on the crowd, Keeter said he wrote a goodbye to his parents and "the love of my life." Crew members near Keeter were hit with gun shrapnel as victims nearby were hit with bullets, he said.


"We need gun control RIGHT. NOW," he said. "My biggest regret is that I stubbornly didn't realize it until my brothers on the road and myself were threatened by it. We are unbelievably fortunate to not be among the number of victims killed or seriously wounded by this maniac.""


Aww shucks. Not enough good guys had access to guns to stop the bad guy.

10/2/2017 5:50:02 PM

TreeTwista10
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10/2/2017 6:00:52 PM

moron
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^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhdXly6jT4E

^^ even if everyone had guns, is the crowd going to blindly shoot at a hotel 20+ stories above them?


[Edited on October 2, 2017 at 6:12 PM. Reason : ]

10/2/2017 6:07:29 PM

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10/2/2017 6:14:25 PM

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You boys really need to get yourselves under control.

Fifty plus dead is too many.

It should be like a broke leg or two on the playground...maybe a couple dead from some rage killing with a conveniently large rock.

But whatever. Let's go for 60 next time.

10/2/2017 6:28:24 PM

beatsunc
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is there a motive released yet?

considering it was really shitty country music my guess is psycho bernie bro like the congressional baseball game guy

10/2/2017 6:30:50 PM

UJustWait84
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"even if everyone had guns, is the crowd going to blindly shoot at a hotel 20+ stories above them?"


Quit tryin' to INFRINGE on MAH RIGHTZ!

10/2/2017 6:42:36 PM

moron
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^^
None yet. Shooter was a wealthy old white man, no criminal history (that we know of so far).

Family thought he was normal. Neighbors thought he was rude because he wasn’t social.

I’d be shocked if he didn’t have a manifesto in his hotel room. Interesting choice of country music festival as a target but this could mean many things. ISIS has claimed responsibility but police are saying there’s no evidence for it.

Apparently he went on a 6 mo vacation in the past few years.

Just completely baseless armchair quarterbacking but I think it’s suspicious his wife was out of the country. My guess is some sort of left-wing terrorist intention.

[Edited on October 2, 2017 at 6:48 PM. Reason : ]

10/2/2017 6:46:43 PM

Zel
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^^^^^ Yo is that Stone Cold Steve Austin, the Texas Rattlesnake himself in the background?

[Edited on October 2, 2017 at 7:32 PM. Reason : needed moar ^]

10/2/2017 7:31:37 PM

acraw
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no way I am watching anything captured on videos or media photo galleries.

10/2/2017 8:09:51 PM

ssclark
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Indeed. Hard pass

10/2/2017 8:43:20 PM

UJustWait84
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"Just completely baseless armchair quarterbacking but I think it’s suspicious his wife was out of the country. My guess is some sort of left-wing terrorist intention. "


I have a weird feeling he may not have acted alone, and maybe he had an accomplice that killed him and escaped.

10/2/2017 9:03:16 PM

moron
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This Is Why ISIS Took Responsibility For The Las Vegas Shooting - BuzzFeed News
https://apple.news/A7vMgWjABRuquYvy1vSh3xw

Apparently ISIS has made a string of false claims for incidents recently

10/2/2017 9:38:41 PM

UJustWait84
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^ I mean they do that all the time. I thought most people knew that.

10/2/2017 10:33:50 PM

MrGreen
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they don't do it all the time

the false claims are a fairly new thing

10/3/2017 12:05:37 AM

tulsigabbard
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I had no idea American history began in 1949

10/3/2017 2:59:17 AM

eyewall41
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In American history the largest known mass shooting is actually the massacre of 250 Lakota Sioux at Wounded Knee.

10/3/2017 8:46:35 AM

Exiled
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Most outlets use the term 'modern US history' so they can gloss over the atrocities perpetrated against Native Americans.

10/3/2017 9:00:31 AM

wdprice3
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Body count not high enough for conservatives to back away from "nothing we can do" responses.

I find the juxtaposition of hardliner 2A arguments to abortion, healthcare, etc. to be quite telling.

10/3/2017 9:09:09 AM

wahoowa
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I think the Sioux massacre was considered a military operation so the distinction is that this is the highest civilian count in US history?

10/3/2017 9:39:57 AM

JayMCnasty
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Anybody else not 100 percent on the guy they are saying did this actually did it? No motive, no surveillance, nothing proving that he did it other than a narrative that his dad was nuts.

10/3/2017 11:06:12 AM

synapse
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Not yet, lemme go check infowars. brb

10/3/2017 11:12:28 AM

ncsuapex
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This is clearly the work of Fred Goldman. He heard OJ was in the audience somewhere.

10/3/2017 11:16:26 AM

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Here is a great example of why JayMCnasty and earl think this is a false flag:
https://i.imgur.com/qsguily.png

10/3/2017 11:18:22 AM

UJustWait84
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"no way I am watching anything captured on videos or media photo galleries.
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As morose as it sounds, I think everyone should watch what actually happened. I also think everyone should watch videos of the Holocaust too. Nothing will every change until a conversation is forced, because people want to just tune everything out and pretend things will get better.

10/3/2017 11:20:46 AM

JayMCnasty
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I never said false flag. Can anybody with 100 percent certainty say that's who did it based on the evidence we've been given? Can you not admit there are holes in the story and some unanswered questions?

10/3/2017 11:21:13 AM

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