JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
I had to give it time to breathe. 1/22/2024 11:29:47 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
Play on playa 1/22/2024 11:36:15 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I thought we had weird substitutions tonight. Middlebrooks was hot in first half and got sent to the bench. Horne was hot and didn’t play at the end of the 1st half, maybe Keatts was worried about fouls. Taylor was playing great D and then didn’t play like the last 8 minutes but Parker plays for the first time.
As a side note and as someone else mentioned, I also don’t know why Ross never plays. Thought he showed some promise last year. 2/7/2024 11:03:10 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not a basketball coach but Keatts substitution patterns are wild. Like, is Pass a buried bench warmer or a worthwhile sub in a needed game? Any given night he seems to pick Woods, pass or lj for less than 10 minutes. Are their games that unique to be that situational? Do they massive on/off weeks in practice? Morsell is seems to be the only consistent player but his game is not consistent. 2/7/2024 11:22:04 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Ross doesn't play because Ross is not very good at basketball. Diarra is better at every aspect of the game. Middlebrooks can actually score near the rim. Burns is burns. 2/8/2024 12:10:57 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty much sums up my feelings
Quote : | "With Keatts: extremely likable guy. His teams play hard. They’re often in position to win when they don’t, which is the frustrating thing. He’s well-equipped to navigate the portal.
But: results are what they are. Most damning thing for him is fans seem to have checked out." |
That’s from Andrew Carter on Twitter2/8/2024 6:24:58 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Ross per minute stats from conf play last year are better than middlebrooks across the board and better than mo everywhere but rebounding 2/8/2024 7:38:10 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Get out of here with your "stats" and "figures." Ross didn't pass the eye test and that's all that matters. 2/8/2024 9:24:22 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
as a fan who has been checked out for at least three seasons now, fire keatts or dont, i dont think we will be any better either way
pretty much given up on nc state basketball ever doing anything of note outside of a random surprising acc tourney run that ends in crushing disappointment 2/8/2024 10:53:37 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't really matter, college sports won't exist as we know them within the decade. (At least not men's basketball/football)] 2/8/2024 11:47:17 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "as a fan who has been checked out for at least three seasons now, fire keatts or dont, i dont think we will be any better either way
pretty much given up on nc state basketball ever doing anything of note outside of a random surprising acc tourney run that ends in crushing disappointment" |
Basically how I feel as well.2/8/2024 1:03:48 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
It’s my belief he will coach his last year remaining on his contract and not be renewed.
Ideally, he leaves on his own accord for another job. 2/8/2024 3:16:25 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Today’s questionable substitution: OConnel has hardly played the whole game because of foul trouble. Keatts puts him in for the last minute when we really need a basket. He is good at certain times but can’t shoot or usually create a shot. Not sure about that one. 2/10/2024 6:40:12 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I mean i understood why he put him in and took out Horne for the defensive possession (who had played like the entire second half up to that point.) Not sure why he kept him in for the final offensive possession. But we all know my thoughts on o'connell. 2/10/2024 6:44:56 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
barring a miracle run to close the season, I’d bet that he’s gone after this season
[Edited on February 10, 2024 at 7:46 PM. Reason : .] 2/10/2024 7:45:26 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
such a bold prediction. ur so brave. 2/10/2024 7:53:49 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
one could make decent money betting against whatever JT3 thinks will happen
[Edited on February 10, 2024 at 8:16 PM. Reason : .] 2/10/2024 8:16:09 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
Didn’t even know we had a game today 2/10/2024 8:42:56 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
I pose the question: Is there anyone who thinks KK is a GOOD coach? 2/13/2024 7:25:13 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12520 Posts user info edit post |
Kevin Keatts does 2/13/2024 7:37:25 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Two games in a row we have the ball at end of the first half and don’t even get a shot off. Might help if we didn’t wait until 8 seconds were left to do anything. Other than that no major complaints today. Maybe a little more time for Taylor and a little less for O’Connel and Morsell. 2/17/2024 11:33:37 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
I think Keatts is an ok coach and seemingly good dude. His teams always play hard, there aren't character issues, and he is a reasonably good recruiter. Put that combo together in a non-power 5 conference and you are competing for the conference most years and maybe an upset in the tourney every now and then. 2/18/2024 5:11:47 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe a team like UNCW? 2/19/2024 9:42:11 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
So he should be fine here once the ACC breaks up and we are relegated to the sun belt 2/19/2024 12:17:18 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe, but I would still bitch about too many of his players who shouldn't having shooting green lights. 2/19/2024 12:48:50 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Drops another one at home that we needed. Again we kept it close but came up short. Another end of half sequence where we didn’t get a good shot off at the end of the game. Would like to see a replay to see if Horne was fouled. 2/20/2024 11:22:56 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
He was very clearly fouled. 2/20/2024 11:24:37 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
I haven't watched the last few games...and that's a bummer because I have probably missed less than 5 in the last few seasons. This is generally my favorite time of year. I'm just over watching the same shit on repeat.
Another flat first half at home. It's admirable that they had the fight to come back, but if you can't get up for games with your already slim tourney hopes on the line...
Is there a real possibility he gets another year? 2/21/2024 9:25:21 AM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Alright Keatts, you have one quad 2 game left and 3 quad 1 games left. This is your chance to make some noise. 2/25/2024 9:53:53 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
All he has to do is not lose again til September and we're good
[Edited on February 25, 2024 at 10:37 PM. Reason : Or really, just March 10th-April 10th, just ONE month without losing ] 2/25/2024 10:35:45 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NC State is 77th in the NET rankings and it holds two Quad 1 wins -- the most under Kevin Keatts since the 2020 season. " |
Lol just saw this on Twitter, think it was supposed to be implying this season is better than we think, but it does not do that.2/26/2024 5:21:19 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
TWICE AS MANY AS Q1 WINS AS LAST YEAR
Take that haters 2/26/2024 6:53:57 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
Who are we getting after him 2/26/2024 6:58:59 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
One thing for Keatts, he makes sure late games are LATE games +1 2/27/2024 11:10:52 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
There goes one chance at a quality win, 3 chances to go. 2/27/2024 11:41:24 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
I'm curious what you guys think would be reasonable expectations for the next coach (or for Keatts for that matter if he sticks around)? 2/28/2024 9:08:16 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Reasonable expectations for any coach at State should be to make the tournament on a regular basis. I think saying you gotta make it every year is a bit harsh given the portal and roster instability. It’s fair to allow for a rebuild/down year every once in a while.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be making the tournament regularly and then every few years be in a position to compete near the top of the ACC with the right mix of veterans and experience on the roster. Which is kinda my expectation for football too.
Seems like a big need is to improve HS recruiting. 2/28/2024 10:03:10 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Agree. I'd say 4/5 years making the tournament with the occasional off year would be great at this point. And they can't be all barely squeaking in... a couple of those years should be solidly in with a chance to make some noise. That would mean double bye territory in the ACC which would give us a reasonable shot to win the ACC from time to time as well.
With NIL and the portal and the ability to build a roster quickly, I don't think we need to wait 4+ years to see this either. It's not unrealistic to see pretty immediate results if the coach is good. 2/28/2024 1:22:11 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
I think reasonably 5 national championships in a row plus undefeated vs UNC and Duke with 20+ margins each game and maybe one game a season where they get a 2nd half lead just for us to go on a soul crushing run to get back to 20+.
Then we'll reevaluate after the 5 years, see how to improve. 2/28/2024 1:44:12 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
that’s certainly one way to mock an entirely reasonable post 2/28/2024 2:36:05 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Relax, take a breath. My joke is zero percent mocking anyone's post. 2/28/2024 3:32:21 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And they can't be all barely squeaking in... a couple of those years should be solidly in with a chance to make some noise. " |
This sounds great. But the reality is we’ve only been better than a 7 seed one time since the 1991.
Point being that no coach has really accomplished this since Valvano
[Edited on February 28, 2024 at 7:58 PM. Reason : D]2/28/2024 7:57:12 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
#fireKeatts 3/2/2024 9:27:29 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Sadly it is that time. No hope with this team. A few weeks back against Syracuse was awful defense. Now today the 2nd half was one of the worst offensive halves of basketball I can remember. 3/2/2024 11:42:45 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Looking at the standing, we will finish only a few games over 500 and most likely bottom half of the ACC. Not good Keatts. I haven’t heard of any big time recruits next year to save his job. 3/2/2024 11:53:19 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
We have a top 50ish guy who will be the top rated recruit to play for keatts if he comes and keatts is still here 3/3/2024 12:36:04 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
He's just doing enough to not get fired. 3/4/2024 12:10:30 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I like the idea that losing 5 of the last 7 is him doing enough to save his job 3/4/2024 1:32:15 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Espn should give Keatts a bonus for keeping these games close just long enough to draw folks in 3/4/2024 9:05:29 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Is he fired yet? 3/4/2024 10:14:47 PM |