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"was Noah white?"

Yes. Noah was a descendant of Adam, who was white.

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"Going back to the beginning, Adam was white. How do we know this? The word "Adam" in the Hebrew is "aw-dam'", which means "to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy". See for yourself in Strong's Hebrew Lexicon here: http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strongs.cgi?file=hebrewlexicon&isindex=Adam We are told by the "mainstream" churches that all people descended from Adam, but this is false. There were other people on the earth before Adam was created. That is why Cain feared other people would kill him when he was banished from the garden of Eden, and how Cain was able to find a wife and have his own descendants. And just think about it logically. How could all the races of people (ie, blacks, asiatics, whites) come from Adam and Eve? Wouldn't Adam and Eve's children bear the same racial characteristics? Is it possible for the blacks, asain, and white races to have all come from Adam and Eve? If it were so and all the races came from Adam, what would cause the VAST physical and genetic differences in these races that are now present? Time or climate? It's simply not possible. Therefore, the "white" races are the descendants of Adam. They are "Adamites." Later, all the Adamites were destroyed except for Noah and his family (in the flood, which was a localized, not global, flood). The Israelites are only a portion of the descendants of Noah (ie, Jacob/Israel was around 13 generations removed from Noah). Therefore, the Israelites are only a portion of the "white" people on earth. But odds are they are currently a larger portion of the white races on earth than they were in times past (if not currently the majority portion) because the Israelites were commanded by God to not intermarry with the other races. Most of the other "white" descendants of Noah most likely intermarried with the other races, and therefore ceased to be pure-blooded whites. Also, the Israelites were instructed to be fruitful and multiply, and God prophecied that the Israelites would greatly increase in number."

3/8/2006 8:19:14 AM

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"And just think about it logically."

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA

3/8/2006 8:22:52 AM

Further evidence showing that the Adamites were white is the fact that white (or near white...ie, having at least some white ancestors) peoples have been the peoples throughout history concerned (initially and exclusively until very recently) with the religions emanating from the Old Testament and/or dealing with Abraham (ie, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam). The Orientals/Asians and Black Africans were never concerned or even aware of these religions associated with Abraham and the Old Testament writings until those of the white (or partially white) races brought the religions to them.

3/8/2006 8:28:12 AM

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"(or partially white)"

don't you mean the unclean mongrols?

3/8/2006 8:34:23 AM

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"don't you mean the unclean mongrols?"

Throwing around words with supposed negative connotations is not going to deter me, although it may turn off others who respond to emotional arguments as opposed to rational arguments. The definition of "mongrel" is simply one of mixed race. Any negative connotation of the word is of no significance.

3/8/2006 8:43:46 AM

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"The reason for the warning is clear, MONGRALIZATION IS THE WORST FORM OF GENOCIDE."

3/8/2006 8:57:00 AM

dude

if Adam and Eve were the only people

and

Adam and Eve were white

where

in the fuck

did the other races come from

3/8/2006 9:22:33 AM

You can't take the Adam & Eve part of the Bible at face value - but other parts are meant to be taken literally. See, you just pick and choose which parts agree with your agenda/beliefs and take those parts literally. It's a delicate balance.

3/8/2006 9:29:09 AM

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"Noodleotomy 21:5 "For thou shall not blaspheme against thy saviour, the LORD thy Noodle. The Noodle hath chosen thee, meatballs, to be a peculiar people unto himself, being both meat and spherical and not Noodly in nature." OMF IT'S FROM MY HOLY BOOK AND I'LL INTERPRET IT HOWEVER I WANT AND IT'S GOTTA BE TRUE!!!!1"

[Edited on March 8, 2006 at 9:37 AM. Reason : *]

3/8/2006 9:37:10 AM

you know what color noodles are

right?

3/8/2006 9:38:26 AM

YELLOW?

3/8/2006 9:43:14 AM

maybe in your mongrelized pasta dishes

3/8/2006 9:46:51 AM

3/8/2006 10:02:28 AM

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"dude if Adam and Eve were the only people and Adam and Eve were white where in the fuck did the other races come from"

Adam and Eve were NOT the first people on earth or the "only" people. There were other people on the earth before Adam and Eve were created:

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"We are told by the "mainstream" churches that all people descended from Adam, but this is false. There were other people on the earth before Adam was created. That is why Cain feared other people would kill him when he was banished from the garden of Eden, and how Cain was able to find a wife and have his own descendants. "

These other races of people were created by God before God created Adam and Eve.

3/8/2006 10:06:34 AM

who created those people then?

odin, i guess.

3/8/2006 10:17:19 AM

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"Adam and Eve were NOT the first people on earth or the "only" people. There were other people on the earth before Adam and Eve were created: These other races of people were created by God before God created Adam and Eve."

Biblical proof?

3/8/2006 10:26:40 AM

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"That is why Cain feared other people would kill him when he was banished from the garden of Eden, "

wait wait wait

what?

my contention is with the fact that cain ~n~ abel were born after the fall

[Edited on March 8, 2006 at 10:30 AM. Reason : `]

3/8/2006 10:29:26 AM

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"Biblical proof?"

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"There were other people on the earth before Adam was created. That is why Cain feared other people would kill him when he was banished from the garden of Eden, and how Cain was able to find a wife and have his own descendants."

More:

Adam Was Not The First Man
http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Adam_Was_Not_The_First_Man.htm

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"Yet, when Cain killed Abel, and in punishment was driven out of the land, he complained to Yahweh in Genesis 4:14: “Any one that findeth me shall slay me.” Upon being sent away, Cain found many other people, for Genesis 4:17 records Cain not only married a wife, but built a city. You don’t build a city for just two people. These were the pre-Adamic races, mentioned in the latter part of Genesis chapter 2."

3/8/2006 10:44:44 AM

So when God created Adam and he was lonely, why didn't he hook up with one of those other chicks?

3/8/2006 10:47:03 AM

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"That is why Cain feared other people would kill him when he was banished from the garden of Eden"

CAIN WAS BORN AFTER THE FALL FROM EDEN YOU DIPSHIT

3/8/2006 10:52:34 AM

Genesis 2:18: "The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

3/8/2006 10:52:39 AM

i don't know what that has to do with anything

to be perfectly honest, i don't think you do either

3/8/2006 10:54:06 AM

salisburyboy, Now I know you are doing all this for games.

BTW. Where does it say that Abel and Cain were the first two children of Adam and Eve.

They could have had 100s of children before Cain and Abel.
They would have continued having children after Cain and Abel.
Cain could have been 600 years old when he killed Abel for all you know. Leaving 600 years for Adam, Eve, and their children to have children.

[Edited on March 8, 2006 at 11:10 AM. Reason : -]

3/8/2006 10:57:12 AM

Noodlesis 1:21: "The NOODLE God said, "It is not good for meatball to be alone. I will make a sauce suitable for him."

[Edited on March 8, 2006 at 10:58 AM. Reason : *]

3/8/2006 10:57:54 AM

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"CAIN WAS BORN AFTER THE FALL FROM EDEN YOU DIPSHIT"

Right. I knew that, but misspoke. Cain was driven from the "presence of the Lord" and from Adam, Eve, and their descendants.

Genesis 4:16 "And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden."

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"i don't know what that has to do with anything"

w/ erudite's question two posts up

3/8/2006 11:00:58 AM

hahahaha

30th for the win

3/8/2006 11:06:06 AM

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"salisburyboy, Now I know you are doing all this for games."

Not at all. So I made a mistake and misspoke. How does that in any way show I'm not being completely serious? Why would I spend all this time making these posts and discussing this topic if I weren't serious? Everyone can see that I'm dead serious, and people are responding to me according to that fact.

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"BTW. Where does it say that Abel and Cain were the first and only children of Adam and Eve."

And where did I ever say that Abel and Cain were the only children of Adam and Eve? I NEVER said that. Do you want to put words in my mouth?

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"They would have continued having children after Cain and Abel."

That's clear from the Bible. They had another son named Seth and other sons and daughters:

Genesis 5:3-5: "When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died."

3/8/2006 11:18:40 AM

Wow. Try to dodge the real question why don't you. Ok, so remove the "only" from my post.

I take it you believe that there were other races around at the time Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden of eden. Then you say the proof lies in the ability of Cain to marry and build a city (for more than two!11!).

I say the other people could have easily been children, grand children, great grand children, etc. etc. of Adam and Eve because:

They could have had 100s of children before Cain and Abel.

They would have continued having children after Cain and Abel.

Cain could have been 600 years old when he killed Abel for all you know. Leaving 600 years for Adam, Eve, and their children to have children.

3/8/2006 11:30:07 AM

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"jbtilley: "Cain could have been 600 years old when he killed Abel for all you know. Leaving 600 years for Adam, Eve, and their children to have children.""

No. Based on the account in the Bible, that is not correct.

Based on Genesis 5:3, Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born.

And based on Genesis 4:25, we know that Seth was born after Cain killed Abel.

Genesis 4:25: "Adam lay with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, "God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him."


Therefore, Cain killed Abel before Adam was 130 years old. That would mean that Cain was also less than 130 years old when he killed Abel.


You have made a mistake (as I did before). Now, do you see me accusing you of "doing all this for games"? Or, do you see me calling people "dipshit" for making a mistake?


[Edited on March 8, 2006 at 11:34 AM. Reason : `]

3/8/2006 11:31:04 AM

i see you being a complete dingbat.

for a multitude of reasons.

biggest of which is your literal take on the bible where it's convenient for your agenda, and your loose interpretation where it fits.

this makes you a hypocrite, and a stupid one at that.

3/8/2006 11:34:13 AM

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"do you see me calling people..."

Looks like you just did.

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"That would mean that Cain was also less than 130 years old."

Yeah, cause there can't be enough people for a city with 130 years for Adam, Eve and their children to have kids. I guess you could read the text and come up with a logical conclusion or come up with a bat insane theory about other races existing.

BTW. The games comment is directed at my disbelief that someone in the real actual living breathing world could come up with half of what you come up with on a regular basis.

[Edited on March 8, 2006 at 11:35 AM. Reason : -]

3/8/2006 11:34:58 AM

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"biggest of which is your literal take on the bible where it's convenient for your agenda, and your loose interpretation where it fits. "

Where have I been "loose" on any interpretation?

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"Yeah, cause there can't be enough people for a city with 130 years for Adam, Eve and their children to have kids."

Cain was banished from Adam, Eve, and thier descendants. Yet, he found a wife and helped build a city shortly thereafter. How could he have found a daughter of Adam and Eve for a wife if he was banished from Adam, Eve, and thier family? And how was he to find enough people to help build a city not long afterwards? Where did the people for this city come from? And where did Cain's wife come from?

3/8/2006 11:41:59 AM

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"Cain was banished from Adam, Eve, and thier descendants."

...because it says that somewhere or because you want it to say that somewhere.

3/8/2006 11:46:53 AM

i called you dipshit because you copied and pasted something that i had already called into contention

you did not admit you were wrong (which you are calling a "mistake") until you were chastised

3/8/2006 11:57:09 AM

So the universe was created in a week?

3/8/2006 11:57:28 AM

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"Looks like you just did."

Did what? What I was saying is that I don't call people the likes of "dipshit" for making mistakes. Thanks for leaving the "dipshit" part out when you quoted me. Were you trying to misrepresent what I said?

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"...because it says that somewhere or because you want it to say that somewhere"

Genesis 4:13-14 "Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me." (NIV)

After Cain was driven from the Lord's presence and from Adam and Eve, are we to seriously believe that any of Adam and Eve's children would want anything to do with Cain? Why would one of Adam and Eve's daughters have married Cain when Cain killed her brother Abel? And that's assuming that one of Adam and Eve's daughters even came into contact or close proximity with Cain. But we know that Cain was driven away from Adam, Eve, and the Lord's presence and went to live in another location far from Adam and Eve.

3/8/2006 12:00:22 PM

^^

3/8/2006 12:05:57 PM

so you're saying it because you're jumping to conclusions

3/8/2006 12:06:03 PM

ARE WE TO SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING IN THE ENTIRE BOOK IS TRUE?

SERIOUSLY?

NOT ANECDOTAL AT ALL?

3/8/2006 12:06:32 PM

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"Thanks for leaving the "*******" part out when you quoted me. Were you trying to misrepresent what I said?"

Wow. You just breathe contention. I actually didn't include that because I don't like to swear like a 12 year old in my posts. Search my archive if you'd like - you'll see that I haven't treated you any different.

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"Did what?"

May not have said you're a ******* but you sure as heck implied it.

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"After Cain was driven from the Lord's presence and from Adam and Eve, are we to seriously believe that any of Adam and Eve's children would want anything to do with Cain? Why would one of Adam and Eve's daughters have married Cain when Cain killed her brother Abel?"

Why your your secret race that was already there before Adam and Eve want to accept the guy into their society for that matter?

3/8/2006 12:06:53 PM

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"May not have said you're a ******* but you sure as heck implied it. "

I "implied" you were a "dipshit"?! What a joke.

I'm trying to be respectful here. It's the likes of woodfoot and 30thAnz that are slinging mud and calling names. I try not to do that.

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"I actually didn't include that because I don't like to swear like a 12 year old in my posts. "

And woodfoot was the one calling me a "dipshit." He was the one who introduced the term to this thread.

Now, have you denounced him for doing so? Why no. You've accused me of "implying" a swear word (when I did no such thing). What about those who are actually using those "swear" words?

What complete nonsense.

3/8/2006 12:13:01 PM

you'll notice that i only called you that after my contention to your statement was met with YOU COPYING AND PASTING THE STATEMENT AGAIN

3/8/2006 12:15:50 PM

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"Now, have you denounced him for doing so?"

I WAS RESPONDING TO THIS ATTACK

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"Thanks for leaving the "*******" part out when you quoted me. Were you trying to misrepresent what I said?"

YOU WERE THE ONE SINGLING ME OUT FOR NOT QUOTING EVERY JOT AND TITTLE OF YOUR POST, NOT WOODFOOT.

In fact if anyone is trying to misrepresent anyone else here it is you. You left this out of my quote:

"I actually didn't include that because..." trying to snare me on just calling you out for swearing

What a joke.

[Edited on March 8, 2006 at 12:23 PM. Reason : -]

3/8/2006 12:19:22 PM

this is exactly why i don't try to have a real debate or conversation with this dipshit.

that's right, dipshit.

3/8/2006 12:22:38 PM

Adam was black and Eve was white. http://www.blacksonblondes.com/adam_bones_eve

3/8/2006 12:22:57 PM

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"this is exactly why i don't try to have a real debate or conversation with this dipshit. that's right, dipshit"

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"Adam was black and Eve was white"

Gratuitous childish name-calling and spamming porn sites...and you guys are the epitome of those trying to have a "real debate"?

3/8/2006 12:29:12 PM

this is not a topic of real debate

this is the topic of a nutjob dipshit

3/8/2006 12:31:01 PM

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"this is not a topic of real debate this is the topic of a nutjob dipshit"

3/8/2006 12:33:55 PM

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"this is not a topic of real debate"

Sure it is. How is the importance of race in the Bible not a topic of real debate?

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"this is the topic of a nutjob dipshit"

"nutjob dipshit"? Niiiiice. Name-calling sure brings a lot to the discussion.

You certainly are interested in a rational and respectful debate on the issues.

3/8/2006 12:37:51 PM

BECAUSE DEBATING THE BIBLE IS LIKE DEBATING ANY OTHER WORK OF FICTION

3/8/2006 12:40:19 PM