440 hp Litchfield Supra vs. Mustang GT (450 hp)

Drag race
Rolling race
Brake test

If it takes only about a grand or two to get that ECU upgrade for the Supra, I don't see why any Supra owner wouldn't!

I suppose it would void the warranty.

10/26/2019 8:15:42 AM

umm 65k car vs 40k car?

slap a blower on the mustang... re run comparison.

nice...

i know the zupra is door to door with the shelby pulling inches till it shifts and then it notches back then i shift and lose more ground because i did the shifting myself.

TLDR gt350 is faster in the rpm range the zupra doesn't have.

10/26/2019 3:24:09 PM

cars can be compared by cost or by power/performance.

in the end, what i posted doesn't really matter.

but the comparison they did is valid considering power levels.


wait, i didn't post a link at the top of the page? i swear i did

here it is: https://www.motor1.com/news/378663/tuned-supra-mustang-drag-race


[Edited on October 28, 2019 at 7:53 AM. Reason : ]

10/28/2019 7:50:39 AM

Can't you buy a 700hp Mustang from a dealership with a warranty for under $50k?

10/28/2019 8:31:53 AM

that 700hp mustang is 75k if you're talking about the gt500

10/28/2019 11:43:01 AM

https://www.motor1.com/news/376543/ford-dealer-40k-mustang-warranty/

10/28/2019 12:49:37 PM

that's pretty cool

10/29/2019 3:46:21 PM

^^ Dealers can just modify cars... that's cool! But the brakes, transmission, and other internals are the same. Can they handle the extra power?

Supra GT4 racecar revealed.

https://www.motor1.com/news/379191/toyota-supra-gt4-race-car

About 100 more hp and torque, minus 400 lbs.

10/30/2019 3:46:50 AM

This looks really nice!

4-cylinder Supra

https://www.motor1.com/news/392822/toyota-supra-four-cylinder-europe

254 hp
-220 lb weight
Perfect 50-50 weight distribution

1/15/2020 5:08:31 AM

Why do you say it looks nice (now)? This car's been out for a while, just not for the US.

I'm very surprised they're selling the 4 cylinder version in the US.

1/15/2020 9:54:41 AM

where did they source the 4? if it's as stout as the 6, you could make a lot of power in a much lighter package with a much lower entry fee

1/15/2020 3:39:41 PM

^^ I meant the one in the pics, which is a limited "Fuji Speedway" edition, looks really nice with the color combination inside and outside.

Hmmm... even the URL says it is for Europe. I don't think they would sell it in the US as it would eat into the BRZ/86 sales perhaps, but it remains to be seen what the future holds.


^ Good question. Not that I have searched, but I haven't seen an engine code yet. Seems like it is a new turbocharged 2 liter engine?

1/15/2020 6:40:06 PM

Something coming Feb 13 at the Daytona 500.

Most probably a 4-cyl version for the US, which Toyota initially said won't be sold in the US.

But I am going to dream it is the hotter GRMN version, rather than a less powerful one

2/11/2020 4:20:57 AM

START SAVING YOUR MONEY

https://www.motor1.com/news/580099/toyota-gr-supra-manual-gearbox-teaser

4/15/2022 9:40:01 AM

^Finally!

Though I'm saving my money for the GR Corolla, haha.

4/19/2022 8:44:53 AM

what a timeline. who'd have thought 15 years ago we'd be saving money for a manual trans corolla? I bought a manual trans camry off here 15 years ago for $800 I think

4/19/2022 12:21:03 PM

4/21/2022 9:08:10 AM

^^^^ AND it’s for the real-deal 3.0 version, not the half-ass, save your money and just get a TRD-tweaked GR86 4-cyl Supra..

Im not really a Supra fan, starting with them not delivering with the styling after the incredible concept version, and then the whole torque-converter automatic only thing…and then the fact that I’d rather either spend less and get a superior SS 1LE, or spend more and get a way superior C8 Z51…but I’m glad the Supra exists, it has a place, and I’m ultimately on team sports car…and this is a step in the right direction.

[Edited on April 29, 2022 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2022 10:53:09 PM

Can you please post msrp on vehicles you just posted

Thanks in advance

5/3/2022 2:17:35 AM

I'm always for "more" sports cars. Just because one isn't as fast or cheaper than another doesn't mean there's no reason for its existence.

Duke, also keep in mind the FT-1 concept was really big. Way too large dimensionally.

And sadly, right now, with supply chain issues, it's close to impossible to order a new car to your liking, ANY new car. One of the main Toyota dealerships in Raleigh still hasn't taken delivery of a single GR86, and that car has been on sale and in production since December.

[Edited on May 3, 2022 at 8:46 AM. Reason : sucks]

5/3/2022 8:44:25 AM

I never knew that. Yeah it was basically Vette-sized.

Not that it’s important—the important thing is that the production one is a letdown.

But like you said, I’m glad it exists. I would just never buy one.

5/5/2022 10:07:25 PM