NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Yes I'm capable of admitting when I make a mistake.
But for the record it was the fringe right wing website that creates fake news that claimed they had an exclusive, not the regular media.
[Edited on February 27, 2017 at 5:01 PM. Reason : X] 2/27/2017 4:57:03 PM |
Cabbage All American 2087 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated." |
- Donald Trump2/27/2017 5:50:18 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Trump says he wants the government to be lean and do more with less, but he wants an extra 54 billion for the most bloated and inefficient government agency there is? 2/28/2017 12:07:58 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I can't imagine Trump will manage to get congress to increase spending. The military doesn't have infinite things they want to spend money on-- especially when we don't have major ground operations committed anywhere. What does Trump think is going to be bought with this cash...?
I guess we just wait and see what congress does.
Trump is increasingly beholden to congress though, between his russia connections and tax returns, congress is doing him some major favors. When they have to cash these in, they lose all their leverage, so they're going to wait for something big. But the power dynamic now is not in trump's favor. The major downside is when Trump goes down, he's going to take everyone he can with him.
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 1:18 AM. Reason : ] 2/28/2017 1:16:59 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
The bomb threats have now reached North Carolina. Shalom Park in Charlotte, the Jewish Community Center of Asheville, and the American Hebrew Academy in Greensboro all had to be evacuated today. 2/28/2017 2:11:31 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
"Money will come from a revved up economy" is peak Trump delusion.
If you claim you will create a surplus by creating a revved economy you are utterly clueless. Surely one of the actual intelligent people around him tell him he is a moron, no?
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:05 AM. Reason : lol he thinks he can get GDP to 5% eight years into a (prodding) rallly] 2/28/2017 9:04:35 AM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
^You think the billionaires in his cabinet that are going to get yuge new tax breaks are going to tell him that their new money won't actually trickle down and rev the economny? Besides he will just blame it all on Obama when it doesn't work because of the mess he inherited.
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:32 AM. Reason : $$$] 2/28/2017 9:31:55 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe all of these paid protestor "activist" jobs the left is sponsoring will stimulate the economy? 2/28/2017 9:41:01 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
I think the computer needs a firmware update, because its posts are getting weaker and more nonsensical than usual. 2/28/2017 9:46:26 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ He literally blamed the SEAL raid on Yemen on Obama this morning so may be true.
^^ why are you unwilling to do anything but throw out non-substantive nonsense? Do you think Trump's [lack of] policy will actually stimulate an economy that is likely near a peak to the point where we can even get 3% GDP growth let alone the FIVE he thinks we will?
His little game of running CEOs, who already know how to play him like a fiddle, around the WH every time a job gets "saved" is going to get old fast..
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:49 AM. Reason : X] 2/28/2017 9:48:01 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
^^Eh, about on par with the quality of leftist hack "hot takes" ITT for why Trump is bad.
Plus -I'm not the one that has resorted to posting Buzzfeed conspiracy theories.
Quote : | "Do you think Trump's [lack of] policy will actually stimulate an economy that is likely near a peak to the point where we can even get 3% GDP growth let alone the FIVE he thinks we will? " |
I give Trump's claim of 5% GDP growth just as much credibility as I give the leftist tabloids and hacks claiming everything Trump does is a disaster.
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:57 AM. Reason : .]2/28/2017 9:51:07 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
lol, the false narrative about the buzzfeed link is keeping me fed 2/28/2017 9:53:11 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ short circuiting again. 2/28/2017 10:19:37 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "HR McMaster tried but failed to strike “radical Islamic terrorism” from tonight’s speech, sources say." |
Keep trying HR. Eventually that isnane man in the Oval Office will listen to the few smart people he has surrounded himself with one hopes.
In all seriousness people like McMasters will keep the country afloat until this fool is gone.2/28/2017 11:46:34 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
i kinda want to watch speech tonight to see if anyone other than trump shows their ass 2/28/2017 12:37:21 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^ I wish it wasnt so but someone will want their "you lie" moment I'm sure.
I just watched his full comments unedited on the Navy SEAL and it's pretty stunning the lack of accountability he has. I've never seen a supposed commander in chief basically say he just did it because someone else gathered intel (directly said it was Obama who planned it and so he had to) so it wasn't his fault.
He also made some utterly bizarre statement about how his generals are the best in at least a few decades. Not sure he understands that generals don't really turnover on Jan 21 like White House staff does. 2/28/2017 12:53:56 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
LMAO at Obama living rent free in Trump's delusional mind:
Quote : | "
Fox & Friends: Can we talk about President Obama? You said you personally get along with him. You guys were going at each other for three, four, eight years. It turns out a lot of his people are organizing, do you think he is behind it?
Trump: No, I think he is behind it. I also think it’s politics. That’s the way it is.
Fox & Friends: Bush wasn’t going after Clinton, Clinton wasn’t going after Bush.
Trump: Well, you never know exactly what’s happening behind the scenes. You’re possibly right but you never know. But I think President Obama’s behind it, because his people are certainly behind it. And some of the leaks possibly come from that group. You know, some of the leaks, which are really very serious leaks, because they’re very bad in terms of national security, but I also understand that’s politics. And in terms of him being behind things, that’s politics, and it will probably continue. " |
2/28/2017 1:06:47 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
It would be nice if Obama was behind it, but he was too busy parasailing with a billionaire on a private beach when people were marching for women's rights and immigration. 2/28/2017 1:09:58 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
"women's rights and immigration" eh? That is a funny way of saying Marxist Bullshit 2/28/2017 1:14:02 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, I can't tell if that was a joke or you are really upset Obama isn't out there protesting.
And God damn, what is that word salad transcript? 2/28/2017 1:16:10 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Awesome!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-house-donald-trump-planted-fake-story-smear-politico-reporter-leaks-washington-examiner-a7603001.html 2/28/2017 7:47:55 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Earlier today Trump implied that the attacks on Jewish sites are false flags, and it's really his opponents doing it to make him look bad. I'm excited to hear what kind of crap he spews tonight to hedge his bet and try to be the hero of the Jewish people. 2/28/2017 8:21:07 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Prediction: speech will be normal and the entire media will be enthralled with his new found presidency and act like everything is normal. 2/28/2017 8:52:41 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Very good read.
How to Build an Autocracy
The preconditions are present in the U.S. today. Here’s the playbook Donald Trump could use to set the country down a path toward illiberalism.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/03/how-to-build-an-autocracy/513872
This is how it starts:
Quote : | "It’s 2021, and president donald trump will shortly be sworn in for his second term. The 45th president has visibly aged over the past four years. He rests heavily on his daughter Ivanka’s arm during his infrequent public appearances.
Fortunately for him, he did not need to campaign hard for reelection. His has been a popular presidency: Big tax cuts, big spending, and big deficits have worked their familiar expansive magic. Wages have grown strongly in the Trump years, especially for men without a college degree, even if rising inflation is beginning to bite into the gains. The president’s supporters credit his restrictive immigration policies and his TrumpWorks infrastructure program." |
It is long, but on the page you can also listen to the article.2/28/2017 8:55:13 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
You don't expect anyone to read that right? 2/28/2017 9:04:57 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Man listening to this speech to congress is just ridiculous. It's like everyone was told if you don't stand and clap every two sentences the snipers will take you out. 2/28/2017 9:21:22 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Wait this dude actually backed off his oft-repeated promise to refer to turrists as "radical islamic terrorists??? That's been like 2 years coming, and he didn't back off it until tonight.
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:29 PM. Reason : ^ Pretty standard, really.]
What exactly does "worst recovery in 65 years" mean?
Seeing Kaine stand/clap and Sanders clap for this dude about companies leaving our country is pretty depressing
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:33 PM. Reason : ] 2/28/2017 9:26:43 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
The bullshit is getting VERY DEEP with these health care promises
lol he just promised to invest in "women's health "clean air" and "clean water"
Quote : | "@DeanBaker13 Trump wants to end states' rights to regulate health care insurance" |
Quote : | "@JohnAvlon Well, at least Trump got GOP standing ovation for the idea that there is still much more work to be done to extend civil rights to all." |
Quote : | "@jbarro 94 million Americans not in the labor force" counts every person 16 or over not working or looking for work: retirees, students, housewives" |
Quote : | "@davidfrum This won’t be the first time Donald Trump has offered optimism" |
lolololololol "Education is the Civil Rights of our time"
Quote : | "@ObsoleteDogma Trump going back to Lincoln to justify protective tariffs right after he said he supports free trade." |
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:55 PM. Reason : V yeah i noticed the same, but can't quite chalk that up as a victory ]2/28/2017 9:44:10 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Eh, I mean there is no details and it's more of the same "I can fix everything" but he doesn't sound like a raving lunatic for once so baby step..
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:54 PM. Reason : VOICE sounds like the govt version of breitbart's "black crime" section] 2/28/2017 9:47:33 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Lol is he serious with this 'Voice' shit. Holy fuck 2/28/2017 9:55:02 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure JCE will chime in any second railing against these anecdotal examples of immigrant violence trump has just highlighted 2/28/2017 9:56:01 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
In case you guys forgot, the address being given to a joint session of Congress right serves as a reminder that Hillary Clinton lost, and Donald Trump is the President.
And you can't do anything about it.
So sorry! 2/28/2017 9:59:19 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Still can't stop thinking about Hil. 2/28/2017 10:03:52 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah he's pretty fucking weird, and strangely fixated.
Do we know if this guy has internet access in prison?
] 2/28/2017 10:11:54 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Doubt it. Interestingly enough, Denny Hastert is with your boy Jared, as was the Blind Sheik.
You can't lie to me and tell me you weren't thinking of your heroine when you saw all those Congresswomen standing up in their white pant suits.
Don't lie. 2/28/2017 10:48:15 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
haha no man. she aint that, and no i don't think of her, ever really.
you obviously do though daily, which is all kinds of weird.] 2/28/2017 10:56:01 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
tww is broke
[Edited on March 1, 2017 at 12:22 AM. Reason : shit] 3/1/2017 12:17:19 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm sure JCE will chime in any second railing against these anecdotal examples of immigrant violence trump has just highlighted" |
Of ILLEGAL immigrant violence. Leftists seem to have a hard time differentiating here.
Leftists use anecdote to attack American's 2nd amendment, or to suggest America is a racist hellhole
Conservatives use anecdote to suggest we should enforce our existing laws.
I agree anecdotal examples and appeals to emotion are bullshit in general, but atleast the intent behind these are less shitty.3/1/2017 12:18:25 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It's anecdotal evidence for something that isn't really a big problem. That's some big league delusion and cognitive dissonance right there.
^^^ lol yeah the extent I think of her is when I see her retweeted I think "go away and let the left move forward).
[Edited on March 1, 2017 at 6:29 AM. Reason : I voted once in four chances for her. Guy acts like she is the collective lefts idol] 3/1/2017 6:27:19 AM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
From Trump's speech:
Quote : | "I have ordered the Department of Homeland Security to create an office to serve American Victims. The office is called VOICE –- Victims Of Immigration Crime Engagement. We are providing a voice to those who have been ignored by our media, and silenced by special interests." |
He invited members of families who were killed by illegal immigrants but VOICE sounds like it'll highlight crimes committed by folks who are normal immigrants. Normally I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say he mistakenly failed to mention "illegal" but an executive order he signed January 25th fails to mention illegal immigrants, only "aliens".
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/presidential-executive-order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united
Quote : | "To better inform the public regarding the public safety threats associated with sanctuary jurisdictions, the Secretary shall utilize the Declined Detainer Outcome Report or its equivalent and, on a weekly basis, make public a comprehensive list of criminal actions committed by aliens and any jurisdiction that ignored or otherwise failed to honor any detainers with respect to such aliens." |
I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure alien = immigrant, not illegal immigrant.
Hope I'm wrong though.
[Edited on March 1, 2017 at 9:53 AM. Reason : .]3/1/2017 9:48:36 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
It's a sad thing, but he really had to make this task force include all immigrants. After all, VOIICE isn't a real word, like VOICE. 3/1/2017 9:53:48 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Prediction: speech will be normal and the entire media will be enthralled with his new found presidency and act like everything is normal." |
yep3/1/2017 9:54:02 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Being completely subjective, his speech was what you'd expect from the President. The SEALs wife moment was fantastic (though highly contadictory to the reality of what happened). I am not going to criticize his speech.
But the thing is, it's pathetic that people praise a president for being presidential. He still has the lowest bar in the history of politics.
Also, it was his same nationalistic vision just delivered in a more softened manner. It's a worldview I simply don't hold. 3/1/2017 10:03:06 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
could Paul Ryan have looked any more smug? 3/1/2017 10:07:05 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
given what he has said about the raid in the past, I'm giving him no credit for inviting the widow 3/1/2017 10:11:42 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's anecdotal evidence for something that isn't really a big problem" |
Obviously. That is the problem of anecdotal evidence. That is why I use "anecdotal" as a criticism. Just like with the leftist anecdotes of minority victimhood and oppression, it's an appeal to emotion meant to override common sense.
Both sides use this bullshit, the only difference is intent. The left's intent is shittier in almost every case.
Quote : | "It's a worldview I simply don't hold." |
What? Specifically what worldview from his speech do you not agree with?3/1/2017 10:18:33 AM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "given what he has said about the raid in the past, I'm giving him no credit for inviting the widow" |
Please, your opinion so important to all of us. Tell us for what have you given him credit?3/1/2017 11:11:48 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
The anecdotes that fit my world view are more valid than those that don't!
Epic shit JCE!! 3/1/2017 11:11:54 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ easy. I'd give him credit if he didn't literally claim hours before using the death politically it was the military and Obama's fault the soldier died and had nothing to do with him.
I believe you are active duty, correct? Are you so partisan that you don't find what he did earlier in the day abhorrent? This man has said repeatedly that he knows "more than the generals" and then when something happens in a raid he gave the green light on he immediately tries to blame others.
Again, it was a tragedy and the only one minimizing the soldiers death is Trump himself.
[Edited on March 1, 2017 at 11:48 AM. Reason : Despite all of that it was a nice moment and I hope it helped give his widow some degree of comfort] 3/1/2017 11:47:59 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly curious if the parents were also extended an invite, especially since the father is pushing for an investigation. 3/1/2017 11:57:47 AM |