I think the Democrats should. They can admit that the original was not a complete package and has a lot to be fixed up. So let's fix it, and let the Dems be the heroes. Instead of the Republican method of letting nothing happen to make the other side look bad, let's do as much as we can and become a party of action.

3/24/2017 7:32:16 PM

Nah, let the republicans own this failure

3/24/2017 7:57:37 PM

is the failure the shitty bill or the inability to pass the shitty bill?

3/24/2017 8:01:37 PM

or the failure that got rammed through in the first place and needs fixing?

3/24/2017 8:13:18 PM

care to explain how ACA got "rammed through"?

3/24/2017 8:29:37 PM

Republican president, Republican congress, Republican house

and Trump blames the Democrats for this thing's failure. Funny.

3/24/2017 8:35:29 PM

As I recall, same pattern happened with social security. Opposition party spread all kind of lies about it. It passed. Suddenly people realized it actually helped them and it's been permanent ever since.

I suspect the same will happen with health care at this point.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/24/trump_says_he_never_promised_to_repeal_obamacare_quickly_a_list_of_times.html

LOL

[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 9:55 PM. Reason : a]

3/24/2017 9:28:11 PM

Quote :

"“So, just to sum up, I would do various things very quickly. I would repeal and replace the big lie, Obamacare.” [New York, NY, 6/15/15] “We have to repeal Obamacare, and it can be?—?and?—?and it can be replaced with something much better for everybody. Let it be for everybody. But much better and much less expensive for people and for the government. And we can do it.” [New York, NY, 6/15/15] “Repeal and replace with something terrific…Other than that, it’s private. You will get great plans, you will have great competition, everything else. Now, at the lower end, where people have no money, I want to try and help those people. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. But I want to try and help those people, so they can also can?—?now, it’s not going to be like a good plan. It’s not going to be like the finest plan that somebody that’s made some money or has a good living can do.” [CNN, 7/29/15] “We get rid of Obamacare and we have a great life all together.” [GOP debate, Los Angeles, CA, 9/16/15] “We’re going to end, terminate, repeal Obamacare and replace it with something really, really great that works. That works.” [New Hampshire, 9/17/15] “We are going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something much better, much better much better.” [Waterloo, IA, 10/7/15] “We’re gonna repeal Obamacare.” [Las Vegas, NV, 10/8/15] “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare which is a disaster.” [Norcross, GA, 10/10/15] “We’re going to terminate Obamacare. We’re going to terminate it, it’s going to be terminated, it’s going to be replaced with something much better and something much less expensive for you and for the country.” [Burlington, IA, 10/21/15] “Someone said what’s the first thing you’re going to do? Well we’re going to work immediately on repealing Obamacare.” [Sioux City, IA, 10/27/15] “I would work immediately on Obamacare repeal and replace, and we would do something terrific there.” [FOX, 11/3/15] “… the repeal of Obamacare and replacing it with something so much better. So we will repeal.” [Aiken, SC, 12/12/15] “Our health care is a horror show. Obamacare, we’re going to repeal it and replace it.” [North Charleston, SC, 1/14/16] “Everybody in here, many of you know me, from day one I’ve been talking about we’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare from day one, we’re going to do it. If you remember, so important, from day one I’ve been saying, repeal and replace Obamacare.” [Milford, NH, 2/2/16] “I think Obamacare is a very big issue. I see it, we are going to repeal it or replace it with something much better and much less expensive. We have a lot of different things we are going to do.” [FOX, 2/10/16] “We’re going to absolutely terminate and repeal?—?we’re going to repeal ‘Obamacare.’ Has to be repealed.” [FOX, 2/11/15] “But he’ll take something like Obamacare where I’m totally and absolutely, you know, going to repeal and replace Obamacare from its inception and he’ll say that I love Obamacare, which is so ridiculous.” [CNN, 2/15/16] “Look, I want?—?we’re going to?—?we’re going to repeal and?—?and replace Obamacare. Obamacare is a total and complete disaster. It’s going to be gone. We’re going to come up with a great health care plan, whether it’s health care savings accounts, we have a lot of different things.” [West Palm Beach, FL, 2/21/16] “We’re going to win with Obamacare?—?we’re getting rid of it, we’re repealing, it replacing it.” [Columbus, OH, 3/1/16] “We are going to get rid of Obamacare and repeal it and replace it.” [Portland, ME, 3/3/16] “Completely repeal Obamacare. Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to.” [Trump campaign website, 3/3/16] “We are going to get rid of a lot of things. We are getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it. OK?” [Orlando, FL, 3/5/16] “On health care where we’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare…” [GOP debate, Jupiter, FL, 3/8/16] “We have discussed repealing and replacing Obamacare. It is going to happen.” [Fayetteville, NC, 3/9/16] “We can’t have good health care. Obamacare is a disaster. Got to be repealed and replaced.” [Fox News, 3/11/16] “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare and we are going to win with its replacement.” [Dayton, OH, 3/12/16] “We’re going to repeal and replace Obama care. It’s going to be repealed and replaced.”[Kansas City, MO, 3/12/16] “We are gonna lead on health care, we are gonna get rid of Obamacare, repeal and replace.” [West Chester, OH, 3/13/16] “Obamacare is a disaster. It will be repealed and replaced as sure as you’re sitting there. Repealed and replaced. Thank you. And we will have alternatives that will be so good, that’s so much less expensive. So much better. You will actually be able to keep your doctor and to have your plan.” [Tampa, FL, 3/14/16] “And I have to tell you, health care, Obamacare is a disaster. We’re gonna repeal and replace it. We’re gonna repeal it and replace it.” [Hickory, NC, 3/14/16] “We’re repealing and replacing Obamacare that I can tell you.” [Youngstown, OH, 3/14/16] “We’re gonna terminate Obamacare. We’re gonna repeal it and replace it with great health care for far less money. That’s gonna happen. That is going to happen.” [Fountain Hills, AZ, 3/19/16] “HANNITY: You said to me you will repeal “Obama care” and replace it with health care savings accounts. TRUMP: Correct.” [Fox News, 3/21/16] “So we’re gonna get efficiency in government but we’re gonna end Obamacare. We’re gonna replace it with something so much better and so much less expensive.” [Janesville, WI, 3/29/16] “Obamacare is going to be repealed and replaced.” [Appleton, WI, 3/30/16] “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare which is a total catastrophe. You are going to have great health insurance.” [Milwaukee, WI, 4/4/16] “Obamacare is going to be repealed and replaced with something much less expensive that works much better.” [CNN, 5/14/16] “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare, which is a disaster.” [Charleston, WV, 5/5/16] “HANNITY: You’re making a promise to balance the budget. You’re making a promise to build the wall. You made a promise you’re going to repeal ‘Obamacare’… TRUMP: A hundred percent.” [Fox News, 5/18/16] “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare.” [Lawrence Township, NJ, 5/19/16] “Because we will terminate Obama care and replace it, believe me, with something good. Believe me. [Cheers and applause] Repeal and replace Obama care.” [San Diego, CA, 5/27/16] “We’re gonna repeal and replace Obamacare with something great.” [Fresno, CA, 5/27/16] “And by the way, we are going to repeal and replace Obamacare. Just remember that.” [New York, NY, 5/29/16] “A lot of part timers because of Obamacare, which is a disaster, which we’re going to repeal and replace with something much better, and much less money.” [Fox News, 6/21/16] “We will repeal and replace job killing Obamacare. It is a total disaster.” [New York, NY, 6/22/16] “We will repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare. You will be able to choose your own doctor again.” [Acceptance speech in Cleveland, OH 7/21/16] “We will repeal and replace the horrible disaster known as Obamacare.” [Manchester, NH, 8/25/16] “On my first day in office, I am going to ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace, I just said it, Obamacare.” [Asheville, NC, 9/12/16] “Also on my first day, I will ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare.” [Clive, OH, 9/13/16] “Also on my first day i’m going to ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare.” [Canton, OH, 9/14/16] “The 3.8 percent Obamacare tax on investment income will be repealed, as will the alternative minimum tax.” [Trump campaign website, 9/15/16] “Repeal and replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).” [Trump campaign website, 10/6/16] “Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my administration. … The Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeal Obamacare and replace it with health savings accounts. We can do that.” [Gettysburg, PA, 10/22/16] “My first day in office, I am going to ask Congress to put a bill on my desk getting rid of this disastrous law and replacing it with reforms that expand choice, freedom, affordability.” [Sanford, FL, 10/25/16] “When we win on November 8th and elect a Republican congress, we will be able to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare. Have to do it. I will ask Congress to convene a special session so we can repeal and replace, and it will be such an honor for me, for you, and for everybody in this country because Obamacare has to be replaced and we will do it and we will do it very, very quickly.” [Valley Forge, PA, 11/1/16]"

3/24/2017 10:26:39 PM

538 did a study somewhat recently that showed that most politicians actually do follow through and complete what they campaigned on he hardest.

Which makes this defeat and move on even more stunning.

3/25/2017 4:28:22 PM

Quote :

"oh god he's pro-Assad"

Bunch of savages in Lexington tonight burning and destroying property. A real leader would gas them all.

3/26/2017 9:13:15 PM

While this would be good news if it holds up, I'm still expecting that at some point they push through a surprise ACA replacement with completely new text and little time for anyone to really process what the bill says.

3/26/2017 9:58:39 PM

i'm having a hard time believing this is true:
Germany slams ‘intimidating’ £300bn White House bill
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-dismisses-white-houses-intimidating-300bn-bill-for-defence-dl7dk629k

Donald Trump 'printed out fake £300bn Nato invoice and handed it to Angela Merkel'
President estimated Germany’s underspend on alliance over the past 12 years, then added interest
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-angela-merkel-nato-bill-defence-ignore-usa-germany-spending-a7650636.html

a german minister is saying its true, trump's administration is saying its not. i hope this is not true, because that its pretty ridiculous even for trump

3/27/2017 8:11:50 AM

That's pretty fucking awesome. Germany and others in Europe depend way too heavily on the US to protect them instead of kicking in their fair share for defense. Handing Merkel an invoice like that would let her know very bluntly that the complaints against NATO weren't just campaign fluff to stir up voters.

3/27/2017 11:13:13 AM

^

3/27/2017 11:14:46 AM

^^^ it didn't happen, thankfully.

I imagine those who like an authoritarian strongman would love that kind of thing though.

3/27/2017 11:46:39 AM

you can call them fascists

3/27/2017 11:56:40 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-everything-czar_us_58d95499e4b02a2eaab6664f

Quote :

"As the Washington Post’s Ashley Parker and Philip Rucker reported on Sunday, Kushner has been tapped to run an entirely new office with the “sweeping authority to overhaul the federal bureaucracy and fulfill key campaign promises ? such as reforming care for veterans and fighting opioid addiction.”"

3/27/2017 5:38:51 PM

Maybe Kushner will take well timed ski trips from that job too.

3/27/2017 7:04:24 PM

Trump won't make it to year two without being thrown in jail.

3/27/2017 9:00:55 PM

Why are Huffpost links still being posted on TWW

[Edited on March 28, 2017 at 12:11 AM. Reason : .]

3/28/2017 12:10:23 AM

Same reason people with no intention but trolling are still allowed to post I presume.

3/28/2017 8:27:48 AM

Trolling? Is that what it is? I guess the majority of non-anchor baby voters were just "trolling" the leftists this election.

3/28/2017 10:07:59 AM

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/28/trump-administration-takes-credit-for-ford-investment-first-announced-in-2015.html

3/28/2017 10:20:50 AM

Nazis love Trump:

3/29/2017 8:53:00 AM

Trump now at 35% approval, a historic low for this point in a presidency:
https://twitter.com/GallupNews/status/847132067120984064

3/29/2017 3:40:52 PM

3/29/2017 4:09:31 PM

Wow, owned like a total ass!

Somebody should tweet him the Gallup poll and the previous pic... with the words "Why so high?"

Pls do it... I would do it if I were a US citizen... I don't want MIB rappelling down ropes from helicopters and busting down my door

3/29/2017 4:53:55 PM

There is zero chance that hasn't been done, I'd assume that's why this screenshot already existed when I go ogled it

3/29/2017 6:10:27 PM

Quote :

"” … And we’ve had leaders like Susan B. Anthony. Have you heard of Susan B. Anthony?” President Trump asked at a women’s empowerment event Wednesday. “I’m shocked that you’ve heard of her. Who dreamed of a much more equal and fair future.”"

this dude got JOKES. hahah

3/29/2017 6:45:28 PM

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/847455180912181249

This fucking guy...

This is like four days after his buddy Alex Jones had to apologize about PizzaGate or be sued for libel.

3/30/2017 11:06:56 AM

He declared war on the freedom caucus!

3/30/2017 11:30:33 AM

Lol he is actively keeping a hit list on the tea party.

This guy... maybe he is a Clinton plant.

3/30/2017 3:10:56 PM

If a 35% approval rating is only helping Trump, i'd hate to see what hurting him looks like.

3/30/2017 11:43:36 PM

Watching Fox News. Sending out ridiculous tweets. Nice little Saturday.

4/1/2017 1:25:53 PM

Trump finally mentioning dismantling Dodd-Frank...

Did I miss mea culpa's from a large part of the far left who thought HRC would be worse about this type of thing than "man of the people" Don? because she gave paid speeches to Goldman?

4/4/2017 11:10:57 AM

i'm not saying there isn't anyone who thought that, but it wasn't any kind of "large part" or significant amount

4/4/2017 11:19:55 AM

Fair enough and it doesn't excuse her massive faults.

I'm just still dumfounded that he hoodwinked people into thinking he gives a fuck about anyone or anything but himself and other super wealthy people.

4/4/2017 11:25:12 AM

People were upset when they saw that the American Sniper himself was at the dem convention, where he had been seen years before, and the definition of his job is to act like a different person

4/4/2017 11:58:18 AM

Quote :

"Congrats to @Cernovich for breaking the #SusanRice story. In a long gone time of unbiased journalism he'd win the Pulitzer, but not today!"

Trump Jr, advocating for a conspiracy theorist/Pizza Gate dude to win a pulitzer

4/4/2017 3:12:50 PM

Quote :

"Initial reports of violence against protesters in Syria indicated more dead police officers than protesters. There was nothing "peaceful" about the protests against Assad; they were militant groups not-so-covertly funded by the US and other NATO countries trying to topple their 6th Arab government in a decade. Assad was right to fight back against a foreign sponsored coup attempt."

Just wanted to circle back to this....

4/4/2017 3:50:13 PM

Why? Cause some rebels are claiming they were gassed? The last incident turned out to be a false flag operation, so why should we trust this one to be real?

4/4/2017 6:31:39 PM

Really bad things happening in Syria today and right now. Asad is continuing to gas Syrian citizens including children. Some of the pictures coming out are horrifying. Typically, this would be an critical time for the US to lead. Instead, Trump is blaming Obama.

Quote :

"Trump's statement on Syria's chemical gas attack is 77 words long. 37 words are spent condemning Assad. 40 words are spent condemning Obama."

I am as big a critic of Obama's foreign policy as anyone on this site. But Trump needs to move on. Of course Obama didn't do anything to make the situation better in Syria. But none of that matters. What matters is what Trump is going to do. Right now, his policy is no different than that of Obama, which he criticizes.

4/4/2017 8:22:32 PM

In general, blaming his predecessor isn't going to fly with anyone beyond his deplorables. This ain't like Bush handing Obama two quagmires and a financial crisis, the American people aren't that dumb.

4/4/2017 8:44:44 PM

^^ trump's russian handlers would never let him take a hardline position on syria

4/4/2017 8:52:37 PM

Military plan set up by Obama administration goes well: "Thank you, Trump!"

Military plan set up by Obama administration goes poorly: "It's all Obama's fault!"

4/4/2017 9:24:01 PM

We never had great options re Syria, I'm not sure how serious Obama was about Syria when he asked congress for AUMF, he kicked it to Congress, and they too opposed going into Syria. I would wager most TWWers were against boots on the ground in Syria too back then. Maybe if we surged in Iraq ISIS never happened, and Syria never happened? This is a lot of ifs to try to pin this current situation on Obama. We should have never been in Iraq in the first place-- that was where we screwed up, but its the world we live in.

Trump ran on a platform of being more friendly to Assad and Putin, he said he wanted to go after families, i don't see how Trump is even against these atrocities. Effectively, our ally just gassed a bunch of kids.

I'm not really sure what we can even do. I don't see any protests stopping Trump from joining forces with Assad, but isn't standing back and just letting this continue just as wrong? Unless Trump is impeached, i think we're in for 4 years of escalating atrocities, the Executive branch is delegated control over military. With Trumpism stoking fear of Muslims and brown people too, there's probably a sizable chunk of Americans who won't care at all.

4/4/2017 10:57:00 PM

^This hits the nail on the head. Obama was dramatically limited in options with Syria because his predecessor invaded a pointless country that gave us 15 years of war and over $1 trillion added to the national debt. The American public was never going to support boots on the ground in another Middle Eastern country that did not threaten the United States.

Americans won't support a war against a non-existential threat if more than 500 Americans are killed as a result. Look how quickly we had to duck out of Somalia in 1993.

Obama yielded to the Congress (which is what every single fucking president before him should have done before engaging in any military action anywhere) and Congress wasn't for it because they knew they would not be reelected.

I'm absolutely certain this was also a large reason no one defended Ukraine and while Syria was ultimately not a geopolitically big deal, letting Russia take Crimea was a massive mistake on our part. THAT would have been the only time it would have actually made sense for a the president to use his powers to do something, especially since we were effectively obligated to via a formal agreement.

As for Trump talking shit about Obama's inaction:

Quote :

"Tillerson noted that the attack was the third time such weapons are alleged to have been used this month, charging: "It is clear that this is how Bashar al-Assad operates: with brutal, unabashed barbarism."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/syria-chemical-attack-reportedly-kills-dozens-idlib-province-n742416

Third time since Trump's been president and not a single military response.

[Edited on April 4, 2017 at 11:15 PM. Reason : a]

4/4/2017 11:04:08 PM

Let's not pretend like we weren't involved in destabilizing Syria, that was the Obama administration

4/5/2017 5:01:20 AM

Not to mention if you have no intention of following through you simply shouldn't say something like he did about the "red line."

4/5/2017 6:38:34 AM

Agree on the red line comment. I can only think he said that hoping it would bring Congress in line. Clearly naive.

Regarding destablilizing Syria, that's due to a combination of Bashar and ISIS/ISIL. Once we really got engaged there, Russia moved in as Syria is a core strategic interest for them. Now it's your normal proxy war between two superpowers.

4/5/2017 9:38:56 AM