They're failing because these idiots have 1,997+cc (122ci) 4-cylinder engines and the tops simply can't take that kind of power output.

9/3/2009 2:41:33 PM

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"me "so it has to be replaced?" him "well we have to see what caused the tear. if it was caused by rubbing from improperly lowering the top its not under warranty." me "..." me " its an electrical automated top, how would I put it down improperly?" him "well if you were putting it down while the car was moving the wind could scew it up" me "you can't put the top down unless the parking brake is engaged..." him "just bring it in, we'll figure it out""

Sounds like he is just looking for excuses to deny your warranty claim. I'd hope for a different service writer when you take it in.

9/3/2009 2:44:46 PM

^^you need to watch it, SON. I've got 2.2L of fury under my hood.

^I might have to. This guy has been the person I've dealt with when I had the glovebox replaced under warranty (cracked hinge, which he claimed technically shouldn't be under warranty [even though I didn't do it] but did it b/c the car only had like 6,000 miles on it )and the 7500 mile service.

9/3/2009 3:31:30 PM

^ This is why I wrote

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"1,997+cc"

SON.

(Just to give a nod to the even more pointless AP2.)

9/3/2009 5:53:43 PM

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"wtf! How are everyone's tops getting messed up?"

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""

Both of my AP1s have had the tops tear in pretty much the same places. My first one had a torn top by probably 40-50k miles.

9/3/2009 8:35:08 PM

if you use it regularly, i don't know of any soft top on any vehicle that isn't going to wear in a hurry.

random thought, but if any of you guys want some canvas to patch an inconspicuous hole or maybe to put an extra patch in a high wear spot on the inside, the top will be coming off my car as soon as the engine gets back in. faded black in color. i was going to use the good roof section and attempt to cover the targa frame from my c4 to make a cheap cabrella knock off.

9/3/2009 9:47:25 PM

^Honda is replacing my top under warranty...hopefully this week.




ALSO, I LOVE my car. After tracking it this weekend....WOW.

9/14/2009 8:46:23 AM

Yeah, S2ks are certainly some of the very best "out of the box" track suited cars. I tell everyone I know w/an S2k to take it to the track to appreciate them, and yet most never do. Kudos to you, and glad you had a good time.

9/14/2009 10:58:11 AM

I saw a S2000 the other day with a long hard top, kinda new style M Coupe looking

9/14/2009 11:04:20 AM

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"I saw a S2000 the other day with a long hard top, kinda new style M Coupe looking"

What you saw was the Spoon Mooncraft roof, which can either look awesome or like ass depending on the corresponding widebody kit they put on. Some of the Japanese tuners make S2000's look really good with them, but I think sadly most of them look like crap. A decent one is the AJ Racing S2000:


The thing I like about it is the tribute to the old Honda S600 coupe:


Beatiful car, classic 60's coupe shape I sometimes wish Honda had made a factory hardtop/coupe S2000.

9/17/2009 3:46:59 AM

that hardtop is awful. i really don't think you can beat oem.

9/17/2009 12:15:08 PM

yeah that s2000 above is hideous. i often times wonder what people are thinking when they create such monsters.

i dont even have photos of mine with the hardtop on. i was going to post it. fail

9/17/2009 12:26:12 PM

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"that hardtop is awful. i really don't think you can beat oem."

I dunno. I think I like the idea of that top more than the execution. I like the coupe look, but hate the fact that the Mooncraft hardtop pretty much requires a widebody kit to look right...and all the widebody kits make the car look like ricer shit

OEM hardtop is well done, I'm hoping to get one before too long.

9/20/2009 2:49:48 PM

Have any of you fellow S2000 owners installed an iPod adapter/interface? If so where'd you get it, how much was it, and was it a bitch to install?

9/22/2009 12:50:27 PM

http://www.handa-accessories.com/s2000-04elect.html
is the one i bought.

install was pretty painless and only took about 30 minutes. there is a how-to video on youtube. (that unit doesn't come with install instructions)

9/22/2009 1:09:59 PM

I replaced the entire radio for about that much. I have an alpine something in it.

9/22/2009 1:19:58 PM

^ King of the "GETTING IT DONE FOR LESS"

9/22/2009 1:46:13 PM

^^ Yeah, but did you lose the ability to adjust volume and change tracks from the little controls by the steering wheel? Reaching for your stereo is so 1999.

[Edited on September 22, 2009 at 1:50 PM. Reason : s]

9/22/2009 1:50:09 PM

dubcaps, I'll check that out.

Quinn, I am not replacing the OEM stereo. I'm fine with it. Only thing I'd want to do is beef up the speakers (if any more powerful speakers can fit in the door panels?).

I see it doesn't work with the iPhone. While I use my iPod Classic all the time, I just got a 16gig iPhone and might want to use it in the car at some point.

I wonder if this would get the job done: http://blitzsafe.com/catalog/honda/hon-/-m-link1-v-2x/prod_192.html

[Edited on September 22, 2009 at 2:37 PM. Reason : I'd need help though, I'm an electronics n00b.]

9/22/2009 2:33:17 PM

^that was my thinking. plus i wanted the to retain all OEM button functionality with minimal effort.

9/22/2009 2:38:22 PM

Yeah I like using the buttons on the dashboard. I use my iPod about 90% of the time (on a crappy FM transmitter), with the stereo door flipped up. I'd prefer to do the same with a direct iPod dock.

In other news, the S2000 will be delayed ANOTHER day getting back to me with a new softtop

9/22/2009 2:46:37 PM

i have all oem button functionality.

you need to realize that the honda oem stereo will not drive any decent speaker.

they put 1000db/w efficient speakers in there because
A) they half assed it
B) its a roadster , so i guess they didnt care if it sounded poor
C) see A

9/22/2009 2:55:07 PM

oh and i bought the headunit, ipod cable, and interface cable (i think modifry(sp)?) used off of s2ki.


even without the interface cable for controlling the OEM buttons I would have changed the entire unit. that stock stereo had no place in a 35k$ car. what does it even offer?

9/22/2009 3:00:30 PM

Mine sounded pretty good. Supposedly had the "premium sound", but I don't know if that was an option or what it might mean. It did have a CD Changer in the trunk to accompany the stock head unit though which was pretty nice.

9/22/2009 10:48:54 PM

Mine sounds fine. It's an 07 model so it has 8 speakers. However its not powerful enough to overcome wind noise with the top down at highway speeds. I like my shit loud.

9/23/2009 9:08:26 AM

rarely do I hear good factory sound systems in any car except the more luxury oriented ones

9/23/2009 2:50:53 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290352313194&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182

9/23/2009 4:32:15 PM

no club racer no care

9/23/2009 9:23:02 PM

^are you really a fan of the CR?

^^nice find. Are the 5.3s any good though, say compared to an LS1?

9/24/2009 9:00:56 AM

A guy did a 5.3 swap into the 944. He said it the motor was just as good as the LS1, just smaller displacement... Isn't it the same block with different heads and a shorter stroke?

9/24/2009 9:26:03 AM

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"the motor was just as good as the LS1, just smaller displacement."

Was the car just as fast as one with an LS1, only slower?

9/24/2009 10:38:41 AM

Don't know. I stopped following his build. He's doing a turbo setup so there's been a lot of exhaust fabricating that's consuming a lot of time. He was able to flip the stock headers though Should be a solid build, when done. The website/forum went to shit when the owner was more or less forced to sell the domain to a company who threatened him, so a lot of "us" have since left the forum.

Correction: He's using an L33 HO engine...

[Edited on September 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM. Reason : .]

9/24/2009 10:45:39 AM

The engine looks mounted crooked to me in the photos....lol

9/24/2009 10:55:55 AM

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"^are you really a fan of the CR?"

not at all. it's sort of a joke between myself and some friends.

9/25/2009 9:15:35 AM

^I mean, it's a capable track car but to me it seems like Honda really halfassed that "special edition".

Anyway, I got my car back from AutoPark Honda on Wednesday. Thursday after work I noticed scratch marks on the trunklid, i.e. something was placed on the trunk and then dragged off. So today I spent 4 hours sitting at the dealership while they buffed off the scratches and then did a horrible half assed job of washing the car, inside and out.

What do I have now, some loose pieces of metal rolling around inside one of the convertible top metal supports Sweet Jesus motherfucking Christ, how many times will it take for these asshats to get this shit right!

9/25/2009 12:34:24 PM

I'm not going to say I told you so.

9/25/2009 12:46:43 PM

lol. Well Quinn what would my alternative been?

9/25/2009 12:50:22 PM

hardtop 24/7

9/25/2009 12:51:40 PM

I don't see the factory warrany covering that

9/25/2009 1:17:23 PM

As long as I drive faster than 70mph, I don't have to worry about rain coming thru the sunroof... I advise you just drive fast all the time...

9/25/2009 2:03:49 PM

Drove down to Myrtle Beach this past weekend in the pouring rain and discovered, SURPRISE, that my new convertible top leaks, A LOT. Water was flowing quite constantly through a point where the driver's side window meets the top and right onto my shoulder. I also noticed when entering and exiting the car in the rain that this new convertible top doesn't have rain gutters on the edges like the OEM top.

I'm taking the car back in today/tomorrow. I'm at wit's end here, this is ridiculous.

9/28/2009 10:22:07 AM

Oh the woes of owning an S2K. Totally sucks dude. I'm sorry for your issues

9/28/2009 10:29:48 AM

Car's back at the dealership.

I now have a Accord V6 EX sedan for 3-4 days.

For a 268hp sedan it sure feels slow, blah.

9/28/2009 4:11:38 PM

6.9 second 0-60 (automatic right?). It's only 1 second slower than your s2k... I'll bet that 1 second feels FORVER.

9/28/2009 5:21:18 PM

I'm not going to say I told you so , again.

How do I reach these kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiids?

9/28/2009 5:31:36 PM

gotta get a little bit taller

9/28/2009 7:24:33 PM

^^^if you do a clutch drop in the S2k 4.9 is possible

Quinn, good Lord man, WHAT ELSE could I have done. Not had a dealership do factory warranty work?

9/28/2009 11:22:55 PM

I would have had to seen the "hole" to begin with. You should have, as i said, taken it to the same exact technician that worked on your fathers car. Anyone who has ever worked on or around an s2000 top knows how much crap there is to mess up. Honda puts the car together as cheap as possible with 30 breakable and easily dropped clips that will rest on the hard metal in and around the spare tire.

Was the hole epic?

Ok , I've now told you so.

9/28/2009 11:42:48 PM

Nah...If the top has a hole it needs to be replaced. You really can't fault the guy for letting the factory dealer do warranty work.

Just stay on them until it's 100% right TKE Teg. The next time you take it to them let them know (before they do the work) that anything less than 100% is unacceptable. Don't be afraid to contact Honda Corporate (you can do this through their website) and ask for a customer service rep to be assigned to your case if it isn't fixed 100% on the next trip to the dealer. Also, start documenting every person you deal with regarding the issue.

[Edited on September 29, 2009 at 12:03 AM. Reason : l]

9/29/2009 12:00:31 AM

I don't know that I'd start getting angry with the service department that you depend on for warranty work...

I have a better solution, get a non convertible! ZOMG!!1

9/29/2009 1:01:18 AM