Screw me over once... Shame on you.

Screw me over twice... Shame on you, again.

Screw me over a third time... Your ass is mine...

amirite?

It's a fine line between working with people patiently and letting them half-ass crap and walk all over you. Good luck Pat!

9/29/2009 8:31:03 AM

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"I would have had to seen the "hole" to begin with. You should have, as i said, taken it to the same exact technician that worked on your fathers car. Anyone who has ever worked on or around an s2000 top knows how much crap there is to mess up. Honda puts the car together as cheap as possible with 30 breakable and easily dropped clips that will rest on the hard metal in and around the spare tire. Was the hole epic? "

Taking my car to the same place my dad had his done wasn't practical, since my parents live in Charlotte. The hole wasn't large, but was getting larger. It was created by rubbing on a support, there is a TSB for it.

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"Just stay on them until it's 100% right TKE Teg. The next time you take it to them let them know (before they do the work) that anything less than 100% is unacceptable. Don't be afraid to contact Honda Corporate (you can do this through their website) and ask for a customer service rep to be assigned to your case if it isn't fixed 100% on the next trip to the dealer. Also, start documenting every person you deal with regarding the issue."

Thanks for the advice. That is what I told them. I said I don't care how many days it takes, i want everything the way it was before (minus the hole ). And yes I will be keeping Honda Corporate in mind if it comes to that.

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"I don't know that I'd start getting angry with the service department that you depend on for warranty work... I have a better solution, get a non convertible! ZOMG!!1"

Don't worry, I haven't been mean or angry with them. Just tenacious and persistent. As far as owning another convertible, I probably won't. Future options (few years from now) in my mind are 911, C6, 370Z, Cayman S, or 335i (coupe). All used of course

9/29/2009 8:38:21 AM

A TSB for a a car that was designed 10 years ago?




They send me stuff in the mail wanting me to trade mine in about once ever 6 months. Maybe you should just give them the car back.

9/29/2009 9:19:56 AM

It's not a TSB for the MY07, and actually I couldn't find a TSB for the convertible top even though a lot of ppl on s2ki.com talk about one. Only TSB for the 07 is a new "reduced maxiumum weight capacity sticker" which I find interesting and annoying b/c I can't find what the reduced weight is anywhere!

I don't want to get rid of my car, I love it!

9/29/2009 9:31:21 AM

TSB # 09-033, applies to MY05-09 cars!



This is useful info for anyone with an AP2!

9/29/2009 5:56:30 PM

i would love a pair of vert top locks if you can get them >.<.

I want to make my hardtop latch more secure but I dont want to mess up what I have now which half ass works.

9/29/2009 6:21:49 PM

Quinn I need your help. See PM

9/30/2009 4:32:08 PM

been giving an s2k a very little amount of thought lately...

quick, convince me it's a bad idea!

10/5/2009 12:39:19 PM

It's not a bad idea. Awesome car, though I'm not sure if I'd recommend one unless you plan on taking it to the track to fully enjoy its capabilities.

Just look out for any wear on the top, it should be a concern if the car is out of warranty. Sometimes Honda will replace it free of charge, based on the TSB. However based on people posting on http://www.s2ki.com that isn't always the case. I think a new top installed is around $3500-4000.

10/5/2009 1:04:36 PM

It's not really a bad idea, just get a hardtop and a supercharger. Still cheaper than your e46, and more hardcore w/out looking like a poser, not to mention all the weight you'd be shedding. Coming to our man-date Wednesday there big guy?

10/5/2009 1:04:57 PM

I too, would like a supercharger. But I think I'll just save the money, and in a few years buy a Porsche instead.

10/5/2009 1:10:18 PM

^^ sausage party what?

10/5/2009 1:55:11 PM

i should be there indeed. unless homeboy from CT comes down to pick up the M.

i don't think i could justify supercharging one. also i think i'm too tall to track a s2k. i keep forgetting this fact. and it's most definitely a deal breaker...

10/5/2009 2:02:53 PM

How tall are you? I'm 6'2" and I fit in the car with a helmet on...just barely.

10/5/2009 4:10:57 PM

6'-4"

10/5/2009 4:11:25 PM

I don't see it happening man

10/5/2009 4:13:42 PM

yep, driven dubcaps s2k enough to know it ain't happening. especially with a roll bar installed.

/waves goodbye to s2k thread!

10/5/2009 4:25:14 PM

faggotry, all of it

10/16/2009 12:55:07 PM

took a big time windshield chip today. Ford Explorer about 8 car lengths in front of me kicked it up into the air. If he had been able to keep his car in the lane and off the shoulder it probably would not have happened. Oh well .

11/12/2009 8:43:01 PM

yeah so I had a windshield chip in my Infiniti. I called up Safelite or one of those companies to do the injection treatment thing they do. I specifically called up Progressive and asked them if making this claim would raise my rate. They said no. Next insurance bill, my rate goes up by $30/month

just pay out of pocket, comprehensive claims aren't worth it unless a tree falls on your car

11/12/2009 9:04:21 PM

^that's not true at all. You just might have shitty coverage.

3 years ago someone smashed the rear glass of my Integra. That piece of glass happened to cost $1100 so you better believe i filed a claim. Did my rates go up?

No they didn't.

I've also had Safelite fix my windshield, as mentioned earlier in this thread. Rates haven't gone up. In fact they should go down next month, the 4 points on my drivers license are disappearing!

11/13/2009 10:04:54 AM

Damn, what do you fellow AP1 guys run for tires? Seems like none of the tires I want are available in the correct sizes. 16" performance rubber is getting more and more scarce.


I guess I'll just go with Dunlop Star-Specs in the OEM sizes (205/55 front, 225/50 rear...or might go with a 50-profile front. I wanted to go just a little wider and lower in profile, like 225/40 and 245/40 or so, but nobody that I can find makes anything in those sizes for a 16" wheel).

[Edited on November 13, 2009 at 7:22 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2009 6:57:30 PM

Screw it, just ordered some Dunlop Star-Specs in the OEM sizes.

11/13/2009 8:59:36 PM

LMK how those turn out.

11/13/2009 9:03:13 PM

well, it's gotta be a step up from what's on there now, so my frame of reference might not be much value to you...the dude I bought it from put Potenza G009 all-seasons on it.

I mean, I've owned an S2000 before that always wore sticky tires, but it had 18" wheels and MUCH wider rubber (and had about 50% more power), so that isn't really much of a baseline, either.


but yeah, I'll tell you how I like them, for whatever it's worth.

11/13/2009 9:07:00 PM

Didn't the Dunlap Star-Specs win the recent tire comparison on Car & Driver?

11/14/2009 9:44:44 PM

Duke, are you opposed to the stock Potenza S02s? That's what I run still, and at least a few years ago when I was looking at that kinda stuff they were considered the best street tire.

11/16/2009 2:41:34 AM

I'm running Hankook R-S2's in 205-55-16 and 245-45-16. Not sure where to find them anymore but I will be switching to AP2 wheels before these tires are gone.

11/16/2009 9:47:12 PM

Yikes. Have you driven that on the track? I'm picturing some corner entry understeer

11/16/2009 10:53:48 PM

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"Damn, what do you fellow AP1 guys run for tires? Seems like none of the tires I want are available in the correct sizes. 16" performance rubber is getting more and more scarce."

I ran these iirc:
http://tinyurl.com/yzdlmo9

They were cheap, but didn't last long. Since you've been talking about selling it probably wouldn't matter too much.

11/16/2009 11:31:54 PM

i wanted something a little more performance oriented. i don't care much about how long they last (i don't want r-comps, but anything longer lasting than that is fine. I'm ok with 10k mile tires.)

11/16/2009 11:41:58 PM

What about the OEM tires for the S2000 CR? Are they made in a 16" size?

11/16/2009 11:51:33 PM

the problem is the staggered sizes...16" wheels limit your choices to begin with (which blows my mind, but I guess there are very few cars small enough to use 16" wheels these days). Then, you're stuck trying to find a good tire available in 16" that comes in both the front and the rear sizes, or something close enough.

i ended up going with the star-specs. thought about the Kumho XS or Hankook whateveritscalled, or maybe even a set of Azenis, but none of them are available in the right sizes.

11/17/2009 12:10:25 AM

i need new tires soon. its been maybe 11k miles and im past the wear bars on the rears. since the fronts are good i might suffer through another pair of azenis just to keep the setup front/rear brand consistent.

11/17/2009 12:22:01 AM

i think i saw you today on the inner beltline near six forks. do you have red wheels and a eat,sleep,honda sticker on the rear hatch

11/17/2009 1:21:57 AM

I run Falken FK452 tires. They're pretty good, they hold up well at auto-x, and it looks like they're available in AP1 sizes.

11/17/2009 7:11:41 AM

^^^how are you burning through tires so fast? I wonder if it's the type of tire you're using. I've almost got 22,000 miles on the original set of tires (though the first 5,000 miles wasn't me) and I'd say I have at least 5,000 miles before hitting the wear bars on the rear tires. In fact, I'm worried about the inside of my front tires wearing out first. The left front is almost slick on the inside.

11/17/2009 8:50:11 AM

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"how are you burning through tires so fast?"

Quote :

"azenis"

11/17/2009 9:52:25 AM

Ah, I guess that makes sense. Though, isn't there an Azeni model that isn't terribly aggressive?

11/17/2009 10:25:37 AM

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"i think i saw you today on the inner beltline near six forks. do you have red wheels and a eat,sleep,honda sticker on the rear hatch "

My civic says "honk if parts fall off". It looks bone stock from the outside. Red wheels, wtf!

Quote :

"how are you burning through tires so fast? I wonder if it's the type of tire you're using. I've almost got 22,000 miles on the original set of tires (though the first 5,000 miles wasn't me) and I'd say I have at least 5,000 miles before hitting the wear bars on the rear tires."

My RE050A's lasted just as long. I think youre are an exception. Maybe that traction control is doing more then we think. Its an s2000 though....you cant get any wheel spin anyways (140ftlbs?lol). The duke seems to have experienced the same longevity.

11/17/2009 12:41:52 PM

I dunno what to say. The traction control still allows for wheel spin.

And out of the three of us I'm the only one to have tracked their S2000.

*scratches head*

11/17/2009 12:58:54 PM

11k is good.

My ADVANS start howling at 5k but I drive a German car and that could be because my rear wheel computer is out of sync.

11/17/2009 1:09:16 PM

Quote :

"^^^how are you burning through tires so fast? I wonder if it's the type of tire you're using. I've almost got 22,000 miles on the original set of tires (though the first 5,000 miles wasn't me) and I'd say I have at least 5,000 miles before hitting the wear bars on the rear tires. In fact, I'm worried about the inside of my front tires wearing out first. The left front is almost slick on the inside."

10-12k is about all I get out of any sports car, be it my old supercharged S2000 or Evo (I didn't keep the turbo Miata long enough to go completely through a set of tires that I mounted). I ran BFG KDWs, Advan A046s, and Azenis (multiple sets of everything but the Advans), and always burned them up in about 10-12k.

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"Though, isn't there an Azeni model that isn't terribly aggressive?"

I don't know how aggressive the older Azenis model is, but I'd never put a "less aggressive" tire on an S2000 to begin with, so it's pretty much a moot point.

11/17/2009 5:51:18 PM

Quote :

"Yikes. Have you driven that on the track? I'm picturing some corner entry understeer "

No track use, but iirc the tread width front and rear is pretty close to the OEM S02s. I'll have to see what happens when I finally take the car to an auto-x event.

11/17/2009 7:49:12 PM

^OEM size is 205 front 225 rear. You swapped out the 225 rears for 245. To even it out you should have increased the front to 225. Then again maybe you think your AP1 is a little twitchy and wanted to stabilize it a bit.

^^Duke, you know me and know that I don't hold back when I drive. Not to mention I was slinging it all over the place on the track and passing faster cars left and right. So don't think for a sec that I'm a sedate driver!

11/17/2009 11:03:54 PM

Just because it's listed as a 205 doesn't mean its 205mm. It is an unfortunate and stupid irony.

11/17/2009 11:08:13 PM

actually, the OEM rears (225 section) are about the same tread width as a lot of 245 tires, so a lot of S2000 drivers have gone to running 245 rears (when running other than the OEM tires).

11/17/2009 11:17:11 PM

I found these tread widths for the S-02's and R-S2's (respectively):

F: 7.1", 7.2"
R: 8.5", 8.7"

That's close enough for me.

11/18/2009 4:08:53 PM

star-specs arrived tonight...hopefully get them mounted tomorrow.

11/18/2009 7:57:03 PM

^^^wat.

correct me if I'm wrong, but that 3 digit number is the tread width in millimeters, regardless of brand.

11/18/2009 11:53:28 PM