over/under : Cena holds the title for 8 months

4/8/2013 2:13:48 PM

what was the deal with Cena leaving the ring and giving Rock the chance to embrace the crowd? Obviously it's the end of Rock's title reign, but I thought he was signed past Extreme Rules.

The guy had a month to train, but that match was worse than Punk/Rock at EC. Except Rock didn't have Punk to cover up all of the flaws.

and Cena's call outs to Rock were awful. I mean awful. Like he wasn't even trying to hide it.

4/8/2013 2:33:18 PM

Best spot call was Del Rio to Swagger

LOOSEN UP

4/8/2013 2:49:02 PM

my 3 predictions for Raw:

-Cena will get booed, look around, then hold up the belt saying "THE CHAMP IZ HERUH!"

-Tons of Funk & The Funkadactyls vs. The Rhodes Scholars & The Bella Twins

-10-man tag match:

Daniel Bryan/Kane/Ryback/Randy Orton/Sheamus

vs.

Dolph Ziggler/Big E Langston/Fandango/Mark Henry/Big Show

Lasts 30 minutes. Ziggler takes a choke slam, shellshock, RKO, and brogue kick, and then taps out to the No Lock.

4/8/2013 3:06:36 PM

have you guys heard about this?

http://www.barbedwirecity.com/what-is-barbed-wire-city/

4/8/2013 3:37:01 PM

from WO: http://www.f4wonline.com/

Quote :

"Breaking News: Potential major angle off RAW tonight There is absolute panic at Raw at this moment as the show was scheduled to build to a segment where Brock Lesnar beat up Rock to set up next year's WrestleMania main event. However, Rock is not there and the word at the building is he went home. Vince McMahon, the writers and producers are in the process of redoing the show, evidently believing the angle has been nixed. Nobody knows any details as to what happened past that as the belief right now is Rock is not appearing and hopefully if that changes we'll get an update. The other major angle on the show is to set up the Extreme Rules main event involving John Cena's new program. It is doing an angle that was scheduled originally for several weeks back and then postponed."

Quote :

"Update Dwayne Johnson isn't on TV tonight because he suffered an injury. The preliminary word was that it was a groin tear or severe groin pull."

Quote :

"over/under : Cena holds the title for 8 months"

under, but just barely simply because they have no one built to win it from Cena; a heel Randy Orton to win it at Survivor Series, no inside info, just a shot in the dark

[Edited on April 8, 2013 at 7:56 PM. Reason : /]

4/8/2013 7:45:09 PM

Raw opens with stills from WM29. Every still of Cena getting big boos. Cena comes out to bigger boos.

GOOD TIMES

4/8/2013 8:02:41 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xcPLs0dT4

4/8/2013 9:37:50 PM

lol at this Raw, which is free, being about 10x better than Wrestlemania, which cost $70

4/8/2013 9:45:40 PM

they're so bored they're chanting for JBL and RVD

[Edited on April 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM. Reason : and michael cole...and they're doing the wave. commentators are playing it off and failing]

4/8/2013 10:05:26 PM

The crowd so does not care about this match, and they're the #2 and #3 faces in the company. I'm expecting Orton to go backstage and start destroying things.

[Edited on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM. Reason : /]

4/8/2013 10:11:55 PM

I hope this starts a new trend where the fans just shit all over the product and chant for people they actually want to see, the crowd is more entertaining than the show

[Edited on April 8, 2013 at 10:16 PM. Reason : THANK YOU BIG SHOW CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP]

4/8/2013 10:13:36 PM

^ Crowd clearly craps on the match, Big Show intervenes to beat them both up. Crowd chants "Thank you Big Show!"

Quote :

"Full list of crowd chants: Chioda, Ole, RVD, Big Show, JBL, Jerry, Cole, ice cream guy, cotton candy, Justin Roberts, CM Punk, Y2J, Austin, XPac, ECW, Savage, HBK, Thank You Big Show, we are awesome, one more chair"

[Edited on April 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM. Reason : /]

4/8/2013 10:16:48 PM

Fandango was wrestling Kofi Kingston, and the crowd was humming his theme music.

4/8/2013 10:35:07 PM

they need to go off script some so the crowd is like this more often, they marked out when Jericho gave JBL his hat

4/8/2013 10:35:53 PM

Main event was Cena vs. Henry where if Henry won he could get a title match. Cena won by countout in a few minutes. Post-match Henry starts to beat up Cena and Ryback comes out, clears Henry out of the ring. Ryback gives Cena a hand to stand up, then starts chanting "Feed Me More", and lays out Cena.

Since Ryback was widely cheered for laying out Cena I don't know if that counts as a heel turn.

4/8/2013 11:11:24 PM

lets be real. Mark Henry should hold all the belts forever

4/8/2013 11:17:53 PM

Best raw in a long long time. Orton/Sheamus was garbage. Thought Del Rio worked the injury beautifully and made the cash in really intense for a few minutes.

4/8/2013 11:33:19 PM

The crowd continued humming Fandango's music not only after his segment, but even after the show was over.

https://vine.co/v/btWLDKPHT6a

4/9/2013 2:28:07 AM

I'd watch Raw every week if the crowds were always that hot. Something tells me not to expect a repeat performance next week in Greenville, SC.

4/9/2013 9:15:14 AM

Ryback has to know he looks like a goddamn ninja turtle right?

4/9/2013 10:44:31 AM

goldberg jr

4/9/2013 10:45:43 AM

Interesting to see where CM Punk goes from here. Ziggler winning certainly doesn't put him in the World Title picture. They may decide to continue with the Cena feud, but who wants to see that again? Sure their last match on Raw was fantastic, but that feud is kind of tired out at the moment.

4/9/2013 1:45:15 PM

I have a feeling Punk may get a short rest before another angle starts up. That Punk/Cena Raw match up was incredible. And it seems they've already moved Taker onto something else for Extreme Rules. I know Punk has been banged up for a couple months. There is no way he can take Extreme Rules off though.

4/9/2013 2:14:36 PM

the Hall of Fame show tonight on USA at 10pm will have:

-Mick Foley inducted by Terry Funk
-clip of Bob Backlund
-Donald Trump inducted by Vince McMahon
-clip of Booker T
-Trish Stratus inducted by Stephanie McMahon
-Bruno Sammartino inducted by Arnold Schwarzeneggar

4/9/2013 5:08:07 PM

The Harlem Shake has been replaced by Fandangoing.

Johnny Curtis owes everyone in that crowd five bucks.

4/12/2013 8:17:59 PM

Good for Kofi

4/15/2013 8:47:02 PM

It's TNA Open Fight Night and 3MB called out The Shield!

4/15/2013 9:35:14 PM

"who here wants to go fandangoing with me? do you people want to go fandangoing with me?"

could pass for a sexual innuendo


and then the rare heel vs. heel match in Ziggler-Swagger

[Edited on April 15, 2013 at 11:41 PM. Reason : /]

4/15/2013 11:33:51 PM

it's amazing the creative team can go from the best Raw in months to one that is an absolute flop. what a terrible terrible Raw last night. scale it back to 2 hours. There is only so much R-Truth, Khali, and Divas I can take.

good for Kofi Kingston, but that final sequence needed a few more run throughs. Didn't feel natural at all.


oh good, Lesnar/HHH cage match! so exciting.

4/16/2013 8:26:31 AM

Didn't help that Raw was in Greenville, SC either. Crowd was pretty dead throughout.

They go overseas next week (I think Raw is in London), so the crowd should be hot.

[Edited on April 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM. Reason : ]

4/16/2013 8:39:52 AM

this whole "beat the champion to get a title shot" shit has to stop. It only makes the champ look weaker and any possible title change less meaningful

4/16/2013 9:03:32 AM

by being the only singles title holder going into Raw to not lose a match last night.

What a fucking terrible show.

4/16/2013 9:07:52 AM

^^ I've always thought "beat the champ in a non-title match to get a title match" was the stupidest way to select a #1 contender. let someone run through the roster, then powerbomb the champ and say "you're next"

^ fucking cena...glad I stopped watching after RAW last week. I knew they wouldn't be topping that show for the rest of the year.

4/16/2013 12:56:07 PM

Who all goin to this? Oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

http://www.thepncarena.com/events/detail/wwe-smackdown-1

4/16/2013 9:08:44 PM

8 fucking pages for a goddamn entertainment event in my sports talk??

4/16/2013 9:10:18 PM

^ less worse than face's pollution of Sports Talk

4/16/2013 10:44:30 PM

Sorry so popular

4/16/2013 11:04:14 PM

I'll go to SD when I inevitably get offered comps sometime next week.

#wwwyki

PS Saturday Morning Slam is the most consistently entertaining WWE show. #sigh

[Edited on April 17, 2013 at 2:04 AM. Reason : Hhh]

4/17/2013 2:01:07 AM

10 man battle royal on Main Event tonight to get IC title shot at Extreme Rules.

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/76975/wwe-main-event-spoilers.html?p=1

click here if you want to see who won.


also 3-Way match of Ziggler/Del Rio/Swagger at ER for the WC. i guess this is about the only way to finally end the Del Rio and Swagger era and let Ziggler start a fresh WC feud heading into Summerslam season?

4/17/2013 7:54:03 AM

and finally

4/17/2013 8:39:16 AM

vinylbandit, going May 7th?

4/17/2013 1:09:56 PM

^ see ^^^^

4/17/2013 1:23:52 PM

Bryan Alvarez of F4W:

http://www.f4wonline.com/component/content/article/1-figure-four-weekly/30851-full-color-pdfepub-newsletter-apr-16-figure-four-weekly-wrestlemania-and-the-wwe-network-early-indications-another-network-delayed-fandango-craze-rise-of-cat-zingano-all-the-news-and-tv-reviews-from-around-the-world-and-more

Quote :

"FULL COLOR PDF/ePub NEWSLETTER! Apr 16 Figure Four Weekly: WrestleMania and the WWE Network, early indications, another Network delayed, Fandango craze, rise of Cat Zingano, all the news and TV reviews from around the world and more! It was the calm after the storm this week as the wrestling business began to return to normal following the biggest weekend perhaps in the history of the industry. The biggest story to follow going forward is the WrestleMania buyrate. We don't have an official number and it will be months before we do. However, three different sources this week stated that very early estimates do not, in fact, look good, and one number I was given was downright shocking. Keep in mind that a number this far out can fluctuate wildly, sometimes by hundreds of thousands of buys worldwide. One source noted that WWE's own internal projections were lowered substantially in the final week before the show based on the Elimination Chamber PPV number coming in lower than expected. If the number comes in low, there are several factors to consider. First, what impact did PPV outages have on the final number? The WWE iPPV feed was a complete disaster, with some not being able to access the show for hours and others never being able to access it. However, one would think based on historical iPPV numbers in the US that this wouldn't make the difference between, say, 800,000 US buys and 500,000 US buys (just throwing numbers out there, so please don't report elsewhere that I said WrestleMania did 500,000 buys in the US). Most likely, less than 50,000 people, perhaps substantially less, tried to order the show online. I did, however, hear during the show that there were traditional PPV providers unable to process orders, both in specific cities and also, according to several reports, nationwide for periods of time through major providers (Comcast Xfinity was mentioned along with Verizon and others). I do remember thinking at the time that if the reports were correct, that could gravely affect the US PPV numbers. But at the moment, it's impossible to determine how many people were actually unable to order as compared to how many had problems but were finally able to pay. Plus, whenever something like this happens, you largely hear from those who had problems, not those who were able to order successfully. If the number is low due to a tech issue, that's obviously terrible for the company since they're out perhaps millions of dollars through no fault of their own, but at least it's not a situation where the company felt they were hot but were in fact selling their audience something they didn't want to buy on the biggest show of the year. I did hear from people after Royal Rumble that they weren't buying WrestleMania because they had no interest in Rock vs. Cena II, but part of me thought that, at the end of the day, it was WrestleMania in the New York and the vast majority of regular WrestleMania buyers would buy again when the day came. If it turns out that the number is low and the cable issues weren't nearly as widespread as first reported, well, this has far-reaching ramifications. First, if interest in this show was down significantly, the first thing that you have to point to is obviously the main event. Rock won't be around much at all, but John Cena is now champion and face of the company yet again (not that he ever wasn't even when CM Punk held the title for more than 400 days). Granted, if the public is starting to tire of him more than believed, they could always take the title off of him and push someone else into that position (easier said than done, obviously, but it's not like they are trapped with him as champion). The bigger issue, moreso than the possibility that they're pushing a guy that after a full decade has finally worn out his welcome as a big-time draw, is the idea that if the US number is low – say, 500,000 to 600,000 buys – that makes the idea of starting up the WWE Network look even worse than it was before last Sunday."

[Edited on April 17, 2013 at 1:45 PM. Reason : /]

4/17/2013 1:26:36 PM

The shitty buyrates might have a lot to do with the fact that:

a. streams are readily available online for free.
b. the PPV's cost more than a month of cable service.
c. everybody could accurately predict what would happen in each match.
d. all of the above are accurate.

4/17/2013 2:38:08 PM

^ a and b have been true for years though

4/17/2013 3:11:39 PM

^^^^ no idea what vb's post means.

Too much shorthand for an old timer like me.

I'll just assume yes

4/17/2013 3:30:32 PM

Quote :

"I'll go to SD when I inevitably get offered comps sometime next week. #wwwyki"

I'll go when someone gives me free tickets.

#

4/17/2013 3:40:34 PM

Oh.

yeah.

4/17/2013 3:50:24 PM

Stone Cold Steve Austin has started up a podcast. He's on there acting like Stone Cold Steve Austin.

http://www.podcastone.com/program?action=viewProgram&programID=436

Episode 2 is him a couple weeks ago interviewing Shawn Michaels.

4/18/2013 7:56:58 PM