bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Is Earl really this stupid or is he trolling? Or both? 3/15/2020 7:33:05 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8772 Posts user info edit post |
Fucking Joe 3/15/2020 8:15:19 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Biden: No one will pay for care during a crisis.
Bernie: But what about 30,000 people per year who die from lack of care when its not a national crisis?
Do we have the courage to take on the industries who are funding Biden's campaign?
Biden: This is like we're being attacked from abroad
GO BERNIE GO 3/15/2020 8:16:51 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8772 Posts user info edit post |
Joe is made for sound bytes. 3/15/2020 8:21:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
that Univision lady is hot 3/15/2020 8:23:43 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
oh no. Joe talked about ebola so much that he made Bernie call this the "ebola crisis" 3 times.
Yikes.
It boils down to whether or not we should simply respond to crises in a reactionary way after they happen or have a system in place that is disaster resilient. Trump is the president during this crisis. Neither of these men will be in charge of addressing this crisis right now.
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 8:29 PM. Reason : imagine having a choice between avoiding crises or responding to them]
he keeps talking about "making people whole" What about people who were never whole?
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 8:30 PM. Reason : bail out the american fucking people] 3/15/2020 8:26:40 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Brilliant. He got Biden to argue that poor people would have lost everything if we didn't give the banks a blank check. That should be all anyone needed to hear. 3/15/2020 8:35:19 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Take it to Twitter, earl... 3/15/2020 8:38:34 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
"alright america. go to the youtube right now"
^I've already been through this for 5 years with people on twitter. Its an echo chamber. I'm here to talk about it with people who have different perspectives.
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 8:48 PM. Reason : and some of you are just here to reminisce about your long lost friend earl by pretending im him]
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 8:50 PM. Reason : i just dont get why someone would make a whole post just to say nothing] 3/15/2020 8:46:00 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
god damn biden got destroyed on social security. lied, went back on it, then lied two more times. bernie walked his ass like a dog. 3/15/2020 8:50:50 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
OMG BIDEN IS DESTORYING BERNIE ON GUN CONTROL!!1 3/15/2020 8:56:57 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
^lol 3/15/2020 9:01:33 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
this is the performance i wanted from bernie. he called out bidens lack of leadership and overall terrible record very well.
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 9:08 PM. Reason : biden opened with a cough and later touched his face]
omg Tapper just asked "How can you cut carbon emissions without fracking?" which is perhaps the most egregiously dishonest and misleading questions in the history of journalism.
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 9:33 PM. Reason : tapper flies deep to right center....going...going...gone] 3/15/2020 9:04:48 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
CNN making no effort to fact check
Apparently Biden reaches 1900 on Tuesday
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 10:22 PM. Reason : wow] 3/15/2020 10:15:41 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Bernie got played. All Biden needed to do was say he'd pick a woman for VP and Bernie fell right into his trap. REKT 3/15/2020 10:25:00 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Tokenism at its finest. Reminds me of how racism was put away after Obama became president.
What Bernie should have done during the women conversation was gone into Anita Hill. Trump will and he will also parade at least a dozen female biden accusers come october. 3/15/2020 10:32:21 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Nah, he should have just shouted "TOKENISM AT ITS FINEST"
That totally would have fixed his campaign issues 3/15/2020 10:43:37 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Damm I came to the wrong place to find any analysis of this debate.
All we have here are cheerleaders. 3/15/2020 10:52:45 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not a Biden supporter, if that's what you're referring to... 3/15/2020 10:53:52 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
So, where are we with the elections being postponed.
I am so caught in the middle on this and it’s mostly due to the voting system in this country being a god damn disgrace. On one side, obviously it’s a public health crisis and no one should be in a line with a hundred people for hours on end. You almost have no choice but to postpone. I totally get it. Vote by mail should be standard and it NEEDS to be ready nationwide by November at ANY cost (State level, I know).
On the other hand, there is something deeply, deeply unsettling at governors openly defying the courts to postpone elections on the eve of said election. I know, right now, it’s in good faith (mostly talking about DeWine) but it’s a small step past that and into authoritarianism.
TLDR; shoulder shrug
Quote : | " Trump will and he will also parade at least a dozen female biden accusers come october." |
Said this before, but not one ounce of energy should be wasted by what Trump might do. He’s an asshole with no shame.
[Edited on March 17, 2020 at 7:07 AM. Reason : X]3/17/2020 7:05:52 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "not one ounce of energy should be wasted by what Trump might do." |
You should try taking your own advice3/17/2020 10:31:59 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
well yeah YOU said that and I agreed with you but we are just two people. most democrats are 100% focused on what Trump might do. Its the main reason a lot of people are voting for Biden in the first place and therefor a key in this election. 3/17/2020 11:54:21 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like Marie Newman beat Dan Lipinski. Small victories can add up. 3/17/2020 11:17:56 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1240076279220785152?s=20 3/18/2020 12:39:51 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Any results from yesterday are meaningless 3/18/2020 7:23:25 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
lol okay 3/18/2020 7:54:36 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
do you not watch any news at all? 3/18/2020 8:35:23 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
If you took the turnout diff bw 2016 and now in Illinois and FL and gave 100%brown Bernie, he would get a small win in Illinois. In FL he would need another 600k votes still 3/18/2020 8:47:44 AM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
Bernie had no chance, but the elections still shouldn't have been held and what the DNC is doing moving forward is irresponsible and will kill people. 3/18/2020 11:04:08 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Agree 100% 3/18/2020 11:27:53 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, it's fine to say the State's should have delayed the primaries, but lets not pretend the results were meaningless. Bernie is done for 3/18/2020 12:49:34 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
bernie was down big in the polls. he wasn't going to win under normal conditions. having the election now was dangerous and irresponsible. Delyaing the election (until who knows when) may have changed the dynamic to benefit bernie but even that is unlikely. I think people are angry that it seems they chose to keep it going BECAUSE bernie was losing and they didn't want to take any chances. 3/18/2020 12:53:48 PM |
qntmfred retired 40721 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " bernie was down big in the polls. he wasn't going to win under normal conditions. having the election now was dangerous and irresponsible." |
probably would have been a good reason for Bernie to acknowledge the reality of his campaign at this point and have dropped out so that the Dem party wouldn't have to make the difficult decisions they did and they could go ahead and cancel the rest of the primaries without being.
By not dropping out, Bernie is responsible for us having to keep holding these primary elections
Quote : | " they chose to keep it going BECAUSE bernie was losing decided not to drop out when it was already inevitable that he would" |
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .]3/18/2020 1:12:35 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
3/18/2020 1:15:29 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
Total bullshit. Bernie is not the only person on the ballot. There are downballot candidates as well. The fault lies squarely with the DNC.
Cool to see qntmfred shilling for them now that Yang endorsed Biden though.
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 1:17 PM. Reason : .] 3/18/2020 1:16:19 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
but Bernie losing will be dangerous to the entire planet. Knowing that, he couldn't just drop out and LET Biden win. Playing it out might allow something crazy to happen. Bernie isn't in charge of when primaries are scheduled. There are other people who could push it back like some states have. 3/18/2020 1:16:47 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
bErnIe sHoUlD hAvE tOlD dOwNBaLlOt cAndIDaTeS tO dRoP oUT ToO 3/18/2020 1:18:20 PM |
qntmfred retired 40721 Posts user info edit post |
downballot elections can much more easily be rescheduled for a month or two later. we all know that in practical terms the urgency is around the presidential election, for better or for worse
do not confuse me suggesting that Bernie should drop out with me being supportive of the DNC or the Democratic establishment. you all want to blame only the DNC and everybody else who doesn't have the head up Bernie's ass, when Bernie clearly had a role to play in this calculus as well
you two are seriously the worst.
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 1:23 PM. Reason : .] 3/18/2020 1:20:41 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
it's all the same schedule man. if bernie dropped out, the DNC would still need to suspend all of the other elections. it's not on him and it's entirely unfair to say that. 3/18/2020 1:25:17 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
having the elections was an absolutely terrible decision in regards to spreading the pandemic
they were also carried out in undemocratic fashion because of all of the problems
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 1:27 PM. Reason : maybe the problems were bernie's fault too tho] 3/18/2020 1:26:16 PM |
qntmfred retired 40721 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " if bernie dropped out, the DNC would still need to suspend all of the other elections" |
and that's exactly what should have happened. prioritize public health by rescheduling the elections, which while not ideal would still have left enough time for almost all downballot races to have a competitive and fair evaluation for voters
Quote : | " it's not on him and it's entirely unfair to say that" |
it's not entirely on Bernie, of course. but it's not entirely on the DNC either. it's a difficult decision to make, which is why some states ended up going ahead, and others didn't. But if Bernie had suspended his campaign a week or even days ago, it would have made it a lot simpler choice for states to make.
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 1:30 PM. Reason : .]3/18/2020 1:27:00 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
Yes - reschedule the entire primary. In fact, Bernie was the only candidate calling for this, while the DNC was threatening states and telling them they would lose delegates if they rescheduled.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/bernie-sanders-primaries-postpone/index.html
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 1:29 PM. Reason : .] 3/18/2020 1:28:41 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
candidates used to not be decided until the convention, voters still had time
and candidates are welcome to campaign against trump now, rescheduling the primary doesn't change this
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 1:30 PM. Reason : .] 3/18/2020 1:29:38 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's not entirely on the DNC either." |
They control the primary schedule. It is their responsibility.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/willfully-choosing-not-listen-scientists-dnc-chair-tom-perez-under-fire-urging3/18/2020 1:33:37 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
it's impressive how much you can get with an inauthentic vp offer 3/18/2020 1:36:02 PM |
qntmfred retired 40721 Posts user info edit post |
Bernie's won 40% of the delegates so far and has lost momentum with each set of elections over the last 3 weeks. To win, he'll have to SUDDENLY win 65% of the remaining delegates. get a grip on reality guys
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 1:38 PM. Reason : .] 3/18/2020 1:37:54 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i said that that he should start negotiating to drop out after super tuesday (and that he lost the weekend before)
but it's insane to say that it's his fault the DNC didn't move the primary, absolutely insane 3/18/2020 1:44:57 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone here has accepted that reality, but there are reasons for him to remain in the race for now. And again, rescheduling the primaries is not contingent upon him dropping out - we're taking issue with you siding with the Neera Tandens of the world who are disingenuously putting the blame on Sanders for this. You should be well aware of how the DNC operates, put the pressure where it belongs. 3/18/2020 1:45:15 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
I feel like Bernie's gonna run no matter what happens. 3/18/2020 1:46:22 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
That's irrelevant to needing to cancel elections and blaming him for not dropping out. Nobody has won yet, maybe Biden should drop out to the avoid elections?
It's the DNCs ballgame to go on or not. There is really no reason every primary couldn't be on the same day in the future 3/18/2020 1:46:35 PM |