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A Tanzarian
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That's McCain's old seat, right?

Does seniority follow the seat until the special election (or end of the term)?

12/14/2018 12:15:50 PM

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Well, how does that work? He wants to resign on the 31st. The new senators start on the 3rd i think? Could McSally get in there in that time frame?

12/14/2018 12:18:32 PM

A Tanzarian
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?

Pretty sure there are daily flights from PHX to DCA

12/14/2018 12:24:37 PM

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Lol, I know they can physically reach the senate, I meant could she be seated in that window or does it take some time to seat an appointment. But now I see your point that seniority stays with the seat.

12/14/2018 12:27:47 PM

A Tanzarian
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All it takes is for the replacement to be duly appointed/certified.

The Senate can refuse to seat the replacement if they feel the appointment is illegitimate, but that seems unlikely.

[Edited on December 14, 2018 at 12:37 PM. Reason : McSally hasn't actually been named as a replacement, has she?]

12/14/2018 12:35:57 PM

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It’s official now. Obviously, McConnell should wait until after Sinema is sworn in to swear in McSally.. but Mitch is a fucking dickbag who wouldn’t do the right thing ever so he won’t.

12/18/2018 10:46:16 AM

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https://twitter.com/waposean/status/1075083033529729024?s=21

Mea culpa. I was wrong.

12/18/2018 12:40:05 PM

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Two down, one to go.

12/19/2018 1:50:50 PM

NyM410
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I mean, Kevin McCarthy is essentially done too. Guy led his CA caucus straight into extermination by convincing them all to back Trump in a failed speaker-bid.

12/19/2018 2:30:11 PM

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anybody on here still a Republican?

why?

12/28/2018 10:04:23 PM

A Tanzarian
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Haven't seen kdogg in awhile.

HCH and beatsunc seem to be in it for the lulz.

TheDuke and rjrumfel are probable closest, but neither can bring themselves to defend this shitshow.

aaronburro?

12/28/2018 11:09:34 PM

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https://www.npr.org/2018/12/28/679129613/trump-epa-says-mercury-limits-on-coal-plants-too-costly-not-necessary

12/29/2018 10:35:47 PM

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^^ I have not been registered Republican for years, I voted for Democrats over Republicans probably 3:1 in the latest midterm election (and abstained from another large percentage of races), and not only can I "not bring myself to defend this shitshow"--I am as hostile to Trump and Trumpism as almost anyone you'll find, even if my views are that of a moderate, libertarian-leaning traditional Republican (think maybe 4 parts Jon Huntsman, 1 part Gary Johnson)

[Edited on December 31, 2018 at 1:41 AM. Reason : ]

12/31/2018 1:39:17 AM

A Tanzarian
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Yeah, you're right. Mea culpa!

My mental image of you runs more conservative than libertarian, even though I recall having read before everything you just said.

12/31/2018 1:54:19 AM

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There are no "traditional Republicans" left in/running for power, which explains many of Duke's recent votes.

Duke and beatsunc are libertarians. Rjrumple is the only active poster which can be considered a solid Republican voter, but I'd be happy to hear about his recent votes that argue otherwise.

[Edited on December 31, 2018 at 1:56 AM. Reason : Well, and Eleusis, who is obviously a MAGA crazy person.]

12/31/2018 1:55:02 AM

A Tanzarian
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Jerry Falwell, Jr is here to dispel any misconceptions you may have about evangelism:

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"You and other white evangelical leaders have strongly supported President Trump. What about him exemplifies Christianity and earns him your support?

What earns him my support is his business acumen. Our country was so deep in debt and so mismanaged by career politicians that we needed someone who was not a career politician, but someone who’d been successful in business to run the country like a business. That’s the reason I supported him.

The deficit and debt have increased during his first two years.

Yeah, Congress, the spending bill that they forced on him in order to get the military spending up to where it needed to be — he said that would be the last time he signed one of those. But he had no choice because Obama had decimated the military, and it had to be rebuilt.

Is there anything President Trump could do that would endanger that support from you or other evangelical leaders?

No.

That’s the shortest answer we’ve had so far.

Only because I know that he only wants what’s best for this country, and I know anything he does, it may not be ideologically “conservative,” but it’s going to be what’s best for this country, and I can’t imagine him doing anything that’s not good for the country."


...and my favorite:

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"There’s two kingdoms. There’s the earthly kingdom and the heavenly kingdom. In the heavenly kingdom the responsibility is to treat others as you’d like to be treated. In the earthly kingdom, the responsibility is to choose leaders who will do what’s best for your country. Think about it. Why have Americans been able to do more to help people in need around the world than any other country in history? It’s because of free enterprise, freedom, ingenuity, entrepreneurism and wealth. A poor person never gave anyone a job. A poor person never gave anybody charity, not of any real volume. It’s just common sense to me."


Those good for nothing poor people!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/jerry-falwell-jr-cant-imagine-trump-doing-anything-thats-not-good-for-the-country/2018/12/21/6affc4c4-f19e-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html

1/2/2019 11:00:52 PM

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How rich was Jesus? Asking for real.

1/2/2019 11:41:49 PM

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https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1080268599967784960

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"Congratulations to Brazil’s new President Bolsonaro. It’s great to have another U.S.-friendly leader in South America, who will join the fight against dictatorships in Venezuela and Cuba, and who clearly understands the danger of China’s expanding influence in the region."


Normal country we live in.

1/3/2019 11:06:31 AM

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I’d like to know how those under the #NeverTrump tent feel about their party still being old, extremely white, and male in 2019

[Edited on January 3, 2019 at 11:43 PM. Reason : .]

1/3/2019 11:42:12 PM

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"“The one thing you’ve got when you come into this place is your credibility, and once you lose it, it’s gone and it’s gone forever. He’s lost it,” Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) told VICE News just off the House floor. “It’s very difficult to negotiate anything, because you don’t know if he’s going to stick with it. You don’t know what his attitude is going to be tomorrow or what his position is going to be tomorrow.”

Simpson is on the powerful Appropriations Committee, which controls the federal pursestrings, and, as an 11-term veteran, he has clout that’s earned him the respect of many Democrats, along with his GOP colleagues. He says his frustration with the president and his made-for-TV spending battle isn’t unique.

“There’s a lot of members of our caucus who think this shutdown is stupid,” Simpson said.

The frustration has only increased since Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell — who was assured by the White House that the president was behind him — got every Senate Republican to sign off on a bill in December to fund the government through February.

It sailed through unanimously, which surprised many political watchers because members of both parties hated the compromise but swallowed it anyway. But the legislation that would have avoided this shutdown drew backlash from conservative pundits, and then former Speaker Paul Ryan refused to bring it up and instead rallied his troops around a bill to give Trump $5 billion for his wall. That ordeal embarrassed many senior Republicans, including McConnell, and has left Democratic leaders refusing to even play Trump’s games this time around.

“We had a deal. Everybody in America knows we had a deal”
“We had a deal. Everybody in America knows we had a deal. That’s why McConnell passed the bill,” House Majority Whip Steny Hoyer told VICE News as he walked to the group photoshoot for newly elected Democratic Party leaders Thursday. “It’s very difficult to deal with a guy who you can’t trust will stay with what the deal is.”"


https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pa5538/hes-lost-it-trumps-lack-of-credibility-on-the-border-wall-is-frustrating-republicans

1/4/2019 12:27:14 PM

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1/7/2019 12:36:19 PM

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"I’d like to know how those under the #NeverTrump tent feel about their party still being old, extremely white, and male in 2019"


I am probably as close to #NeverTrump as you will get on this site. Personally, me and other #NeverTrumpers I talk to, don't really care about the demographic makeup of our party. We care about the ideals of a small, limited government that will protect the freedoms of ALL people. It doesn't matter if that comes from a white octogenarian, or a black, gay, 20 year old female.

1/7/2019 1:08:31 PM

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suuuure

1/7/2019 1:33:28 PM

rjrumfel
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"How do you feel about something?"

"Well, let me tell you how I feel about something."

"I don't believe your opinion."

1/7/2019 1:50:47 PM

Bullet
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So what you're saying is you should believe everything everybody says, even if their past statements and/or actions contradict their "opinions"?

1/7/2019 1:53:51 PM

rjrumfel
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If you're not gonna believe him, then why ask him in the first place?

1/7/2019 3:33:56 PM

Bullet
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It's ok to ask someone a question, then call them out when you don't think they responded truthfully.... but I actually didn't ask him in the first place.

1/7/2019 3:38:08 PM

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"I am probably as close to #NeverTrump as you will get on this site. Personally, me and other #NeverTrumpers I talk to, don't really care about the demographic makeup of our party. We care about the ideals of a small, limited government that will protect the freedoms of ALL people. It doesn't matter if that comes from a white octogenarian, or a black, gay, 20 year old female.

"

translation: we want to go back to the 90's when we just pretended that racism had been solved already

1/7/2019 4:37:27 PM

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I’d be weirded out if I went to a massive gathering and it was nothing but older white men, but I get that it makes some people feel safe

safe in a, “I’m not gonna call the cops on that obviously sketchy white dude” kind of way

[Edited on January 8, 2019 at 11:43 PM. Reason : .]

1/8/2019 11:41:53 PM

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[Edited on January 11, 2019 at 12:33 AM. Reason : .]

1/11/2019 12:32:27 AM

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It's embarassing King has been allowed to stick around this long, for the GOP and America. It's sad Iowa has elected him 9? times.

He's only going to keep saying more extreme things too.

1/11/2019 3:09:48 AM

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Lindsey Graham is such a big piece of fucking shit.

1/15/2019 10:14:17 AM

dtownral
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mcconnel is still the worst right now

1/15/2019 12:10:38 PM

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Look, they both suck.

1/15/2019 3:50:42 PM

NyM410
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https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1085754770357452800?s=21

Lol, wtf? DNA testing? Are these people serious?

1/17/2019 7:50:48 AM

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^
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"Johnson, a former Breitbart reporter, has denied the magnitude of the Holocaust, expressing doubt that gas chambers were real and questioning whether six million Jews were really killed—a figure that has been well documented by scholars and historians. He also ran crowdfunding efforts for white supremacist causes, including the neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer...

Johnson used his meeting with the congressmen to push for 'increasing the number of sequenced genomes for research,' according to a statement provided by a Roe staffer."



There's something slightly unsettling about holocaust-denying neo-nazis researching genomes.

[Edited on January 17, 2019 at 12:10 PM. Reason : ]

1/17/2019 12:09:11 PM

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"I’d like to know how those under the #NeverTrump tent feel about their party still being old, extremely white, and male in 2019"


I'm no longer a Republican either officially or practically, but I think I share enough common DNA with the NeverTrump types to comment.

I don't give a shit, personally. I care about competence and policy, not who's making or executing it.

Now, I think that politically, it's a liability. I also think that it's a symptom of an errant party. I also think that bringing more diverse backgrounds under the tent would be beneficial in terms of not having policy blind-spots.

...but I wouldn't be particularly bothered by it in and of itself, if they were meeting the standards on competence and good policy.

1/17/2019 12:21:30 PM

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i will never not be entertained when self-righteous republicans describe the current democratic party as their goal of what the republican party should be about

1/17/2019 12:31:15 PM

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"Pence says Trump is like Martin Luther King Jr. for 'inspiring us' with a border wall: “And honestly” he opined, “the hearts and minds of the American people are thinking a lot today about [this] being the weekend we remember the life and work of..King Jr”"


1/20/2019 3:53:52 PM

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"I care about competence and policy, not who's making or executing it."


I agree with this statement when it comes to individual elections, if I'm being asked to choose between a man and a woman I take the one who is most likely to go with the policies I like or who can institute them best. But when the Republicans in the house are still 93% male (compared to only 61% for Democrats), there's clearly a problem in how the party approaches diversity.

1/20/2019 5:30:23 PM

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that's what i'm saying. It's not a problem in and of itself that needs to be addressed. Not in the sense some make it out to be, at least. It is a symptom of other problems that need to be addressed.

* It is a problem in the sense that it is maybe a bit of a political albatross, and it probably makes it easier to come up with shitty policy at times, due to having a blind spot on certain things.

1/21/2019 11:42:57 PM

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1/24/2019 10:59:30 PM

thegoodlife3
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those blind spots, tho

1/25/2019 12:27:14 AM

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Do any of our constitutional conservatives have thoughts on the GOP members who refuse to vote for a congressional bill unless the president is expected to sign it?

1/25/2019 10:45:28 AM

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"Ann Coulter Rages At ‘Disgraced Politician’ Gingrich After He Tells Trump To Ignore Her"

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ann-coulter-newt-gingrich-feud-fantasyland-trump-border-wall

1/28/2019 3:39:59 PM

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1/28/2019 5:13:53 PM

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Quote :
"The Harris County Republican Party on Sunday stirred up controversy after the group blamed the Holocaust on "leftism" in a public Facebook post.

"Leftism kills," the group wrote in a since-deleted Facebook post published on Sunday, Holocaust Remembrance Day. "In memory of the 6 million Jews lost to Nazi hatred in the name of National Socialism. We will never forget.""


Double down:

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"Vlad Davidiuk, communications director at the Harris County Republican Party, initially declined to comment on the post except to say: "The Nazis identified themselves as National Socialists. The name of the party was the National Socialist Workers party.""


Quadruple down:

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"In a follow-up comment, Davidiuk said he'd taken down the post because "we don't want a statement from us to be a distraction" from remembrances of the six million Jewish people killed in the Holocaust.

"However, that withstanding, history recognizes that the Jews were killed by the Nazis and the Nazis were officially the National Socialist Workers Party," he added."


Octuple down:

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"[Harris County GOP chairman Paul Simpson] called the use of the phrase "leftism kills" in the social media post "inartful," but said the party stood by its message.

"All Americans should be on guard against the dangers of ideologies that demean the value of individual human lives to the collective," Simpson wrote. "That includes socialism in all forms, whether 20th-century German National Socialism or today's glossed-over socialism that is condoned and even promoted by those who should know better. ""


https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Harris-County-GOP-draws-fire-for-post-blaming-13566040.php

1/29/2019 12:45:27 PM

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lol, the comms directors name is Vlad.

1/29/2019 12:58:05 PM

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wow

1/29/2019 2:32:29 PM

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These guys don’t disappoint.

1/29/2019 2:38:46 PM

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