BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Simply beautiful. Now time to go find a cheap C6.
1/13/2013 7:19:53 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
The body color strip on the roof is a mistake. I also don't like the tail lights or the fangs coming off them. 1/13/2013 7:25:06 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Is the bumper still made of loose flimsy plastic, and the body with various size gaps everywhere between panels? 1/13/2013 7:42:20 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^ of course
And this thing is hideous, front and back. What the hell were they thinking?
[Edited on January 13, 2013 at 7:45 PM. Reason : ] 1/13/2013 7:44:21 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "At the same time, the 2014 C7 Corvette will deliver an estimated 450 horsepower and 450 pound-feet of torque, which will make it the most powerful “base” model ever – and the fastest, with 0 to 60 times expected to come in at or under 4.0 seconds.
And that’s just the beginning. There are other versions of the ‘Vette quietly under development, likely to include the step-up Z06 and the next-generation ZR1, which likely will reach well beyond 600 horsepower.
" |
1/13/2013 7:45:58 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
its a corvette guys!
1/13/2013 7:48:26 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
I do like the way the cockpit is designed around the driver
I won't like how it's probably made of cheaper plastic than toys I had in the early 80s.
As if I'd be buying one anyway
Quote : | "Transmission options are a six-speed automatic or seven-speed Tremec manual—yes, a seven-speed unit, with four shift gates. The manual transmission also features active rev-matching on both down- and upshifts courtesy of patented GM technology. We’re told that it’s fully defeatable for when you’re in the mood to blip yourself. " |
lmao
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Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I do like the way the cockpit is designed around the driver " |
Reminds me of the MkIV days!1/13/2013 7:57:55 PM |
jawhitak Veteran 328 Posts user info edit post |
that looks so dope. way more aggressive than the disappointingly-boring c6. 1/13/2013 8:09:10 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52838 Posts user info edit post |
Looks cool as a first impression...hopefully the looks don't wear thin, being too boy-racerish or Batmobilish.
I don't like the departure from round taillights, and for that matter, the whole rear of the car looks too much like the Camaro.
I'm disappointed that they didn't make it smaller and lighter, but at least it's not bigger and fatter.
The interior looks light years ahead of previous Corvettes, like maybe for the first time in many years like it wouldn't be embarrassing for a Kia. Hell, even the seats look like they might be decent!
Fit and finish and NVH remain to be seen. If they're anything better than appalling, they will exceed expectations.
I'm sure that even the base car will be flat-out stupidly fast in any performance metric. The Z-cars will probably nearly depart from Newtonian physics and approach the Einsteinian realm.
Despite the gripes, overall I give it a solid thumbs-up so far, just based on looks and paper specs. I'm disappointed that I'll never be able to own one, due to the motherfucking EDR. 1/13/2013 8:20:29 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
I doubt that this bodystyle with all of its black plastic vents, speed creases and glass cockpit will stand the test of time. The stingray concept was much more interesting.
[Edited on January 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM. Reason : .] 1/13/2013 9:54:43 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
I'd really love it if manufacturers started putting side view mirrors on the fenders... but maybe that's just me. 1/13/2013 10:14:27 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
the car has a lot of CF panels instead of all fiber glass and also all the vents are functional. i think i can make the 540i last another year until my year review and bonus. this car looks to fit every requirement i've had in looking for a new car. 1/13/2013 10:57:51 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
lol, bunch of haters in this thread.
I think it looks fantastic 1/13/2013 11:08:02 PM |
Colemania All American 1081 Posts user info edit post |
Exterior is great.
Interior looks like a redneck's take on an A5.
Still goes like stink.
So, not much has changed regarding how I feel about it. 1/13/2013 11:37:22 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52838 Posts user info edit post |
The interior might look really good in a more subdued color combination. 1/14/2013 12:22:25 AM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
Still using leaf springs. Fuck that car. I could careless that it will lap enzos. 1/14/2013 2:00:09 AM |
Ahmet All American 4279 Posts user info edit post |
I think the interior looks as cheap and low rent as ever. Not really sure why you'd think otherwise. 1/14/2013 3:52:06 AM |
Dr Pepper All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
-Ahmet has spoken.
praise be to Ahmet.
Ahmen.
(ba-dum-chiiii)
j/k, where you been bro? The front end of this thing reminds me of the new Viper; the rear appears to be what a 'tuner' shop would turn out for a Camaro's body kit. I'll let the new look simmer.
Also, 7 speed manual, come on? At least Vin Diesel can continue to upshift during his street racing. 1/14/2013 6:34:54 AM |
Jek All American 709 Posts user info edit post |
I wish they'd post more pictures of an all black interior rather than two-tone, but this certainly looks better to me than the black and red (which looks horrid IMHO):
I think the interior looks like a big step up, but I'm guessing the real test will be when people get their hands on test cars and actually feel the quality (or lack thereof) of the interior. 1/14/2013 7:41:16 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Still using leaf springs. Fuck that car. I could careless that it will lap enzos." |
How about you enlighten us as to why this car's suspension is inferior to others, say a BMWs?1/14/2013 9:39:32 AM |
Ahmet All American 4279 Posts user info edit post |
I've been around, working way too much...
I'm not falling for it again. C5 was finally supposed to be "world class", when that didn't work, so was the C6. I'm not falling for it again... Look at the details;
Look at the door panel, the chrome/aluminum panel meeting the dash when the door is closed... will not fit well. Also, the dash vent with (plastic) chrome will I'm sure feel chintzy.
Also, exterior looks OK but why didn't they just leave the roof painted;
1/14/2013 10:15:57 AM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
^^Remember who you're talking to. There is no point in arguing.
Personally I like it, except the tails. I think going away from round lamps was a mistake, and the "fangs" are too much. As to whether it will stand up after a few years, we'll see--given the Corvette's rather long refresh cycle, this is a very valid concern.
[Edited on January 14, 2013 at 10:17 AM. Reason : s] 1/14/2013 10:17:14 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
that's one ugly steering wheel 1/14/2013 10:20:39 AM |
slut All American 8357 Posts user info edit post |
I like the exterior looks of the c6 a lot better. 1/14/2013 10:31:08 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52838 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^
Yeah, transverse leaf springs with double wishbones all around is a fucking fantastic suspension configuration. 1/14/2013 11:30:44 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah way lighter better roll control and a signature piece lol 1/14/2013 11:57:48 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
I bet its lighter than any of it's competition.
As to the interior I think it looks good. But ultimately I think that's something you really couldn't pass judgement on till you sit in one. Either way the seats look like a huge upgrade. 1/14/2013 12:39:01 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Looks great. Its crap compared to a BMW because the glove box doesn't hang open nor does it smell like beeswax and crayons inside !!! 1/14/2013 1:24:41 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
Again, I don't see what all the fuss is about.
It looks like a stretched camaro with a corvette front clip.
"I'm'll git me one 'soon as mah double wide's paid off."
I'm just here to hate. 1/14/2013 1:26:46 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Assuming the price point is just under 50k for the base this car will be a good buy. My only issue with this design is GM's overuse of the camaro on every new car. Even the new impala features camaro styling.
Ok the more I look at the new GM cars the less I like this car. There is nothing special about a camaro, corvette etc if every car in the lineup essentially looks the same.
[Edited on January 14, 2013 at 2:06 PM. Reason : ] 1/14/2013 2:02:17 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Is that a 1 on the bottom right corner (4 o'clock position) on the tach telling you what gear you are in?
^Don't you get it? They are trying to build an identity, the same way all bmw models look alike, the way all porsche models have the key signature body styling, etc.
It's all about branding. I'm going to miss the 4 circle tail lights on the corvette; that's just a signature 'vette thing. However, I really like this rear end. It's the rest of the car that is aesthetically Meh to me. The steering wheel does look catastrophic... But the performance looks promising. 450hp stock!? maybe 550hp for a z06? That's one helluva fast car for sure!
I wanna hear a c7 on the dyno and compare it to the sleep inducing viper.
[Edited on January 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .] 1/14/2013 2:14:54 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Let's just add vents and ducts and things wherever possible.
Can't wait for fins to return to cars. 1/14/2013 3:41:32 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
They're all functional...so quit being a hater.
Not like this is a Mustang, or even an S2000 1/14/2013 4:28:33 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Not being a hater.
I just see the same old Corvette that the Matchbox design studio got a hold of. 1/14/2013 5:03:13 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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To me, this looks terrible, to me.
[Edited on January 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM. Reason : .] 1/14/2013 5:08:45 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
to be fair, you like(d) the nissan juke, to be fair 1/14/2013 5:15:02 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha 1/14/2013 5:25:25 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
^^exactly. 1/14/2013 5:37:17 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, burn 1/14/2013 5:47:22 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
liked?
Hell, he bought one! 1/14/2013 5:48:29 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How about you enlighten us as to why this car's suspension is inferior to others, say a BMWs? " |
yea, ill enlighten you.
it is primitive, automotively uncultured and archaic. just like the god damn pushrod that it still uses. i dont care about vette heritage, purpose, performance, reliability and other things you might start telling me about. i dont care how fast it is and how it will probably be 10 sec faster than the new m3 on all the circuits. Just bothers me to own a $60k sports car in 2014 that has primitive mechanical design. In usual vette fashion there is excess body contours where it is not needed. That bothers me at fundemental level. I am used seeing nicely trimmed overhangs that speak of sophistication.
When they start having ITBs, complex IRS, alcantara headliners, and trimmed body dimensions I will consider one. Until then I will treat it as a child that it is. A child for uncultured, uneducated, untraveled, unsophisticated overly-simple peasants who don’t know any better and haven’t tried any better. There! I said it! No filter!1/14/2013 6:02:16 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUrtMZ20rFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrwBHi_bW2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TpOehEGz2s 1/14/2013 6:54:45 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
^^it sounds like you want a car as a status symbol so you can herald it as such rather evaluate the car on tangible benefit. the pushrod design is simpler, lighter, and much cheaper to manufacture. as a result, you can get world class performance much cheaper, due to a much lower r&d budget. show me a single v8 that gets gas mileage even close to a corvette while making similar power. there's a lot to be said for simple. simple saves budgets and races. styling elements are completely subjective, but to suggest any part of the running gear is primitive suggests someone wanting new just to say it's new or expensive rather than someone that understands or appreciates any of the dynamics associated there with.
look at the abomination bmw calls the new m5. a twin turbo dohc v8 that makes less power and gets worse gas mileage, while costing a metric fuckton more in r&d, production, and maintenance. you're like the definition of poser, dude.
[Edited on January 14, 2013 at 6:56 PM. Reason : this thread stinks like a eurotrash board] 1/14/2013 6:56:15 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Instead of saying "show me another V8 that..." how abut "show me another engine that has similar power and fuel economy and show me what the displacement is" 1/14/2013 7:20:19 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
Did you read a single word what I said? Let me repeat - I don’t care how much faster, cheaper, and simpler it is. In fact, I hate the simplicity part of it. I don’t care about its great mpg. Nobody is buying it for mpg anyway. Are you kidding me - If BMW is a status symbol what do you call a vette then? Like ANY other non-appliance car IT IS a status symbol. So is Lexus 460 hybrid for new money FOBs. Don’t tell me you own a 540i because Volvo 850, forester or crown vic couldn’t do its job. Why do you need a 540i? I can tell you a page long story why I drive a bimmer from a technical standpoint and ONE of MANY reasons is, yes, because I ALSO like its image. Have liked it since I was 10 year old child with E30 M3 on my wall! What’s wrong with that? Poser is somebody who buys a name brand without understanding, knowing or appreciating anything about it.
..concur on new M5. i have been a critic of almost all new BMWs and i have no problems spitting on my own brand if they are not delivering, which they haven't since e60 on 5-series side.
[Edited on January 14, 2013 at 7:50 PM. Reason : f] 1/14/2013 7:35:26 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
I am honestly dying to know why you wanted a bmw. I drive a 540i because I wanted quiet, comfort, power, and good driving dynamics on a budget. my car is 15 years old. if it said chevy on the outside, i'd still drive and love it. what I cannot comprehend is why you would denounce the car for not providing "status" where it in place provides performance, utility, and practicality.
this is some of the most female logic i've ever heard in my life. do you work in sales? 1/14/2013 7:41:17 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I just hope these things sell like crazy. The more the sell they less the c6's will cost.
A malibu rides like a bimmer.
[Edited on January 14, 2013 at 7:53 PM. Reason : ...] 1/14/2013 7:51:48 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Assuming the price point is just under 50k for the base" |
I can't imagine this thing being under 50k1/14/2013 7:52:19 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I am honestly dying to know why you wanted a bmw. I drive a 540i because I wanted quiet, comfort, power, and good driving dynamics on a budget. my car is 15 years old. if it said chevy on the outside, i'd still drive and love it. what I cannot comprehend is why you would denounce the car for not providing "status" where it in place provides performance, utility, and practicality. " |
crown vic is also quiet, powerful and way better budget than 540i from tires, insurance and especially maintenance. what's wrong with leaf springs on crown vic?
im not denouncing the car based on status, but based on primitive design, starting from engine that was used in 1955 truck to leaf springs that are almost 100 years old in design.1/14/2013 7:55:10 PM |