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Which, I know was largely caused by Irsay meddling with the Colts. It just doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.

Especially hated the Wentz move -- that one seemed to actually stem from Reich

[Edited on January 27, 2023 at 10:07 AM. Reason : e]

1/27/2023 10:04:23 AM

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Eh they haven't been THAT bad. They got screwed when Luck decided to up and quit and just rolled with Brissett instead of mortgaging the future for a replacement. Then they got Rivers for a year and he had a perfectly fine season. Then they got a pretty decent year out of Carson Wentz. The only time the colts have had a bad QB room was this past season with Matt Ryan (which should have surprised no one who has watched football in recent years.)

Each one of those years save for 2022 the Colts had a much better QB situation than the Panthers under Rhule/Wilks. And even this past year I'd still probably have traded Ryan/Foles for Darnold/Mayfield.

I think his work with Wentz would actually be commended. Pretty much the only times in his career when Wentz had looked like a decent NFL QB have been with Reich running the show. Not saying I want Wentz to play for the Panthers, because he's clearly got a low ceiling as an NFL QB.

1/27/2023 11:35:07 AM

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^Yeah Matt Ryan hit the age wall his last season in Atlanta.

Tepper is a moron, waiting until Tuesday for introductory press conference, now everyone will continue hammering them for the Wilks decision.

Wondering where this will leave Panthers with Brian Burns, know he loved Wilks and not sure they can afford to Franchise Tag him after next season

1/27/2023 3:13:36 PM

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Sounds like first ever Panthers QB Frank Reich wants first ever Panthers DC Vic Fangio back. That would be a win.

1/27/2023 7:36:16 PM

justinh524
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Fangio to da dolphins

1/29/2023 2:48:54 PM

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"Original pick: Ikem Ekwonu, OT
New pick: Tyler Smith, OT

With quarterback Brock Purdy off the board here, it would have been easy to stick with Ekwonu. He had a solid season after a slow start and has shown the promise to be a long-term solution to a longtime issue. Smith, however, graded out slightly higher for the league's ninth-ranked run offense and allowed seven sacks after being thrown into the position right before the season. Ekwonu allowed eight. -- David Newton"


just incredible stuff from David Newton

2/7/2023 1:49:15 PM

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ESPN must be desperate for rage clicks. Normally these articiles come out after the Super Bowl.

2/7/2023 3:11:06 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://talkoffametwo.com/hof-interviews/ronde-barber-on-hof-receiver-logjam

Ronde Barber is great and definitely deserved to be inducted into the HOF

2/20/2023 6:37:00 PM

justinh524
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Wow, everything you just said was wrong

[Edited on February 20, 2023 at 6:45 PM. Reason : Not only was ronde overrated, he's apparently also incredibly stupid!]

2/20/2023 6:44:33 PM

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"“And maybe even Steve Smith … because he was unique.”"


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"“Andre Johnson, to me, of those three that you just mentioned, he was probably the most unique""


Okayyyy, Ronde...

2/20/2023 8:16:59 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^ do you get off on calling people stupid?

2/20/2023 8:23:26 PM

justinh524
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Yes

2/20/2023 8:42:06 PM

dmspack
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Meeting with Derek Carr. Ok. Sure.

2/28/2023 9:18:36 AM

thegoodlife3
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fine with me

2/28/2023 10:05:03 AM

justinh524
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I mean Derek Carr is way better than Sam Darnold

2/28/2023 12:23:24 PM

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Half of tww is better than sam darnold they just don’t realize it yet

3/1/2023 1:33:47 AM

thegoodlife3
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RIP Big Cat

3/2/2023 1:48:27 PM

justinh524
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He's sexually harassing and being racist in heaven now.

3/2/2023 1:56:13 PM

thegoodlife3
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welp

they’re in love with someone, and I bet it’s Anthony Richardson

3/10/2023 5:45:52 PM

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Damn.

I’m kinda excited. But very nervous.

It’s gotta be Stroud or Young. AR had all the measurables…but that’s kinda it. Some team will fall in love with him but surely not at 1. Right?

Hate to see DJ Moore. But love the idea of getting your guy. Hope it works out cause or we’re fucked. Of course, we’ve been fucked. So what ever.

It’s gotta be Stroud

[Edited on March 10, 2023 at 6:05 PM. Reason : S]

3/10/2023 6:00:07 PM

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Coulda just pursued Lamar and kept DJ Moore. But nah.

[Edited on March 10, 2023 at 6:16 PM. Reason : H]

3/10/2023 6:13:12 PM

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It better not be Anthony Richardson.

3/10/2023 6:19:35 PM

justinh524
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Gotta be Stroud. Young is just a tiny lil guy and Richardson can't throw.

^^It's much cheaper to trade for the top pick than trade 2 #1's (this year and next year) for Lamar and then spend $250 million+ to sign him. The cost just to acquire the right to sign Lamar is incredibly prohibitive.

3/10/2023 6:32:14 PM

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I hope it's Stroud. The package isn't that bad. A pick swap, Moore, a first and 2 seconds. Obviously the trade will be won or lost based on if the QB pans out.

We'll still have a 2nd rounder this year as part of the CMC trade

[Edited on March 10, 2023 at 6:35 PM. Reason : .]

3/10/2023 6:35:21 PM

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^^ and one guy is a 26 year old MVP and the other is unproven. Idk. This trade might be fine.

3/10/2023 7:20:56 PM

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A 26 year old MVP who is going to take up a huge chunk of cap room and no top end rookies to add cheap talent to the roster for 2 years. There's a reason why hardly anyone ever tends offers to players on non-exclusive franchise tags and it's not because they aren't good. I absolutely love watching Lamar play, but it's bad business to trade 2 firsts for him right now (as it would be for any other player in his situation) when he's not under contract.

Also i don't really mind trading Moore. His big extension was kicking in this season and I'm not sold on him ever becoming a guy who can put up double digit touchdowns.

3/10/2023 7:31:23 PM

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Yeah I get that. I guess I’m mostly just not sold on Stroud being the can’t miss guy. And the team has plenty of holes and now they’re trading draft capital. I guess they can spend in free agency to fill those holes.

3/10/2023 7:37:08 PM

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Without DJ we’ve got Terrance Marshall, Laviska Shenault, and Rashard Higgins as our WR corps. Maybe this frees up space for us to sign DeAndre Hopkins? We can’t roll into the season with our current group of WRs

3/10/2023 8:58:57 PM

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Don’t forget Shi Smith

3/10/2023 9:13:35 PM

justinh524
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This is Shi Smith erasure.

Lol but yeah i would expect a new coaching staff to retool the offense. I would argue that the team doesn't have a ton of holes, but the ones they do have are positions that catch passes (and QB but that is going to be addressed now obviously.)

WR - probably the biggest need on the team, they will definitely address this in the draft/FA
TE - not really sure the Thomas/Tremble combo is the answer. Could definitely use an upgrade here
RB - re-sign foreman if you can, add some other dudes because Hubbard sucks

OL is fine and defense is strong across the board.

3/10/2023 9:23:00 PM

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Ok, I admit I missed future league MVP and obvious WR1 Shi Smith. I just don’t know how we can bring in a rookie #1 pick with literally no one to throw to. We’ve got to go hard at multiple WR in free agency.

Bring in 2 of the following and we’ll be good: DHop, Theilen, Jakobi, Juju

3/10/2023 9:43:59 PM

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last time Panthers lost their #1 receiver they went 15-1

3/10/2023 9:57:07 PM

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Hope our new coach is good

3/10/2023 10:34:28 PM

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" I just don’t know how we can bring in a rookie #1 pick with literally no one to throw to. We’ve got to go hard at multiple WR in free agency"


They Panthers still have their own 2nd round pick (#39 overall), a 3rd, 2 4ths and a 5th in the draft. I'd expect 1-2 pass catchers drafted at a minimum (including both wr and te in that.) Also wouldn't be surprised to see them trade down a little to add some later round picks. Obviously they aren't going to go into the season with Marshall and Shenault as your guys.

Maybe Nuke wants to come home to play, but I bet he signs with a team that's a contender, not one trying to rebuild an offense with a brand new coach. I hear Robbie Anderson is available lol

3/11/2023 1:16:02 AM

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Shy Tuttle coming in to play nose guard, Vonn Bell going to be signed as a new safety, hopefully letting Jeremy Chinn go back to playing LB/Rover

3/13/2023 3:50:39 PM

justinh524
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Shy Tuttle coming in to play 3-4 DE you mean

3/13/2023 4:35:56 PM

TreeTwista10
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That's not what the local radio guys were suggesting so I dunno

3/13/2023 4:49:28 PM

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I mean he's significantly smaller than Derrick Brown

6'3 300 lb is pretty typical for a DE in a 3 man front

Ah hell, darin gantt is claiming he'll be the NT, but joe person says he'll be a DE opposite Brown. Who the fuck knows. Clearly both those dudes are just guessing.

3/13/2023 5:13:19 PM

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Tuttle at WR?

3/13/2023 6:16:49 PM

justinh524
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Would fill a big hole

3/13/2023 6:35:41 PM

rayef3rw
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There's been a lot of smoke that we like 2-3 of the top guys at QB. If that's the case, I'd be shocked if we don't try and trade down to parlay our costs into a few extra picks. My assumption is we'll go with Stroud since he 100% fits Reich's mold (tall, mostly), but I could be convinced enough FO meddling takes place we could go either way.

Either way, I'd be shocked if our highest pick isn't used for a pass catching TE, which this class luckily has tons of. Depending on how things shake out, we trade down from 1 and use whatever value we get to pick one of the best receiving option available (WR or TE) -- there's plenty of value out there -- and then focus on our other options.

[Edited on March 13, 2023 at 8:31 PM. Reason : e]

3/13/2023 8:31:31 PM

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Idk I think it seems dumb to trade for the #1 overall pick and then turn around and shop that pick

3/13/2023 9:26:32 PM

justinh524
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Yeah it's some real big brain shit to think that trading up to #1 was only so you could trade back down. That isn't going to happen. The Panthers are taking a QB. And all actual signs point to that being Stroud

3/13/2023 10:01:07 PM

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^^I agree but its been done I think it was the Eagles that did it.

So currently the teams that would be looking at a QB

Texans (2)
Colts (4)
Falcons (8)
Titans (11)
Jets/Packers (13/15) Depending on Rodgers

Supposedly they liked Richardson and Levis as well. Young doesn't fit Reich's profile.

I wouldn't trade out unless you want Richardson or Levis more than Stroud and you could fleece Houston or Indy for similar to what you paid minus the DJ Moore player component, so two 1st Round picks and a 2nd.

3/14/2023 7:34:47 AM

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I'm realizing now I said use our top pick for a receiver .... I meant the one after we get a QB, if that makes my take any better or worse

3/14/2023 8:17:41 AM

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Richardson doesn't fit his profile either because he can't fuckin throw accurately.

3/14/2023 12:14:47 PM

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If they like Richardson and Levis then they’d just stay at 9 and 1 will fall to them there

[Edited on March 14, 2023 at 12:22 PM. Reason : 1 or both would be there at 9]

Still gotta get a vet QB

[Edited on March 14, 2023 at 12:24 PM. Reason : A]

3/14/2023 12:22:27 PM

justinh524
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Maybe they'll trade back to #9

3/14/2023 2:12:45 PM

dmspack
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Now you’re talking

3/14/2023 2:22:38 PM

rayef3rw
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"Maybe they'll trade back to #9"


Hear the Bears have a good new WR they may be willing to shop around...

3/14/2023 3:17:20 PM

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