NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
31% credible 1/7/2023 9:34:44 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In the next regular-season ACC game after a win over Duke or Carolina, Les/Herb/Sid/MFG were a combined 2-20.
Keatts is now 4-1" |
Giglio1/8/2023 10:17:41 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty good! 1/8/2023 11:39:22 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I’ve always been a huge Keatts fan and have never wavered. 1/28/2023 3:08:09 PM |
appamali All American 4479 Posts user info edit post |
Hey now! 2/2/2023 10:37:40 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Welp. I'm here to eat some crow. I wanted the guy fired 2 years ago and didn't see any path forward for our team this year (or last year for that matter). He worked some magic in the transfer portal with Burns and Joiner and miraculously hung onto Baby T. Not only are they good, but Burns is just flat out fun to watch and root for. I honestly thought this was a straight throw away season before we started with a new coach next year. At the risk of jinxing it, this seems like the most solidly tournament bound team we have had since Herb. Kudos to Keatts for that.
I love that we finally have an inside game with Burns to get quality shots when the jumpers aren't going. It's much more rare for us to go ISO-ball and not run a set (although Terq still takes some headscratchers). Not sure if these are just coaching/philosophy adjustments or better talent--probably both.
I'd be surprised this was abled to be duplicated going forward (he hasn't had these kinds of hits on the transfer market prior), but I was dead wrong about this season. I also have my doubts that building with 1 year transfers is the way to go forward even with the way the system is now.
[Edited on February 2, 2023 at 12:02 PM. Reason : d] 2/2/2023 12:01:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, my one concern is that we aren't built for consistent success of matriculating players like a traditional team. There is a good shot that all of our best players will be gone next season. But maybe he can continue to bring in ballers through the transfer portal as that's becoming nearly as important as recruiting HS and foreign kids.
[Edited on February 2, 2023 at 12:17 PM. Reason : KKIAW] 2/2/2023 12:16:25 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we aren't built for consistent success of matriculating players like a traditional team." |
good thing that is no longer how college basketball works at all2/2/2023 1:12:57 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah the transfer portal and rebuilding a roster nearly every offseason is just the new norm. This burden can obviously be lessened by hitting on HS recruits at a better rate than KK has previously done. KK has had a lotta recruiting misses, some dudes that just didn’t belong in the ACC at all. I know not every recruit will be immediate impact. But a higher hit rate on HS dudes would help a lot I think. 2/2/2023 1:22:18 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4368 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I’ve always been a huge Keatts fan and have never wavered.
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2/2/2023 6:25:01 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Will be interested to see how we do against the Syracuse zone. We didn’t seem to do that great against it when we played FSU. 2/9/2023 9:34:18 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
I too will eat crow. I’m pretty sure I never thought he was doing a good job, and I don’t know how well we are doing this season. 2/11/2023 10:53:22 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
I felt like he had to do well this season to keep his job
but think he has done more than good enough to stay 2/12/2023 3:49:38 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I agree, he's much better than Scheyer who is doing a much worse job with much more talent. 2/12/2023 4:09:01 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26084 Posts user info edit post |
Bring back Herb Sendek! 2/12/2023 4:24:15 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
I'm glad he brought in Levi 2/13/2023 8:59:37 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
2/19/2023 4:32:57 PM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
2 game losing streak is mostly the coaching staff's fault 2/28/2023 9:55:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I think morsell and t not being able to throw it in the ocean is a pretty big factor 2/28/2023 10:09:07 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
I wasn't able to watch last night's game, and morsell usually takes decent shots, but part of T's problem has been his poor shot selection. NBA range pullups are fine when they go in, but when you are shooting like shit, they are offense killers. 3/1/2023 10:32:01 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Morsell forced some stuff last night. Probably due to T being bad and also on the bench with foul trouble. But you’re right that morsell usually takes good shots. 3/1/2023 10:52:48 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
yep, when we started the comeback from 10 i think it was, everything was working until T started his bullshit 3s.
Feed DJ, Pass out to Jack or JJ. It was working 3/1/2023 11:58:13 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
it didn't seem like anyone moved their feet once the double team moved over to Burns. Morsell was either late to develop or was forced to take contested shots.
and yes, closing the gap to within two and then making 2-3 terrible possessions with bad shot selections absolutely killed the momentum. 3/1/2023 3:19:25 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Clark jacked a 3 and then air balled a floater after Joiner cut it to 2 (and then back to 4 after Duke answered).
I agree that we just clear out and let DJ go to work. Nobody moves to his side of the court or tries to cut. He throws a great skip pass to the opposite corner. But we don’t seem to do much to help him. I guess you spread the floor and dare them to double him and then hope he can hit the open man. But once the double team starts, we do a poor job of helping him 3/1/2023 4:46:11 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
After ending the regular season (and ACCT) with a whimper, what's the play? I know he isn't gonna be fired, but as fun as the team was at points this season, we are still ending as a bubble team and that seems like a ceiling for Keatts. We are about to lose our 4 best players and barring another miracle in the transfer portal in the offseason, it's going to be tough to be as good next year. 3/10/2023 2:24:16 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " We are about to lose our 4 best players" |
Are we? Joiner is out of eligibility. T is surely going pro. Isn’t every body else at least eligible to return? I fully expect attrition. But we don’t have a clue who is coming back do we?
Quote : | " and barring another miracle in the transfer portal in the offseason, it's going to be tough to be as good next year. " |
This is kinda the reality in CBB now for most teams. Keatts (and his staff) did a better job identifying portal talent this past year. In the past we’ve brought in guys that just haven’t been ACC level players. That’s been his biggest downfall…poor talent evaluation and wasting scholarships on bad players. Maybe he’s turning a corner with that? I dunno.3/10/2023 2:41:58 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Gantt and Morsell also did their senior night thing, so it wouldn't be surprising if neither of them return. But yeah everyone besides Joiner is eligible for another season. This world have been Mahorcic's final season of eligibility but he is eligible for a medical redshirt.] 3/10/2023 2:50:34 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
As mentioned above, he isn’t in danger of being fired but being a near bubble team doesn’t buy you a long leash. Would like to see a few stud recruits like he got in Smith. 3/10/2023 10:45:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't know Burns had another year of eligibility 3/10/2023 11:10:45 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah that he’s still got the extra Covid year 3/11/2023 6:20:04 AM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
The man has earned another year or two, maybe this is just the beginning. 3/18/2023 3:41:20 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah he was very much on the hot seat coming into this season. It was NCAAT or bust. And he we made it. It was a fun season for the most part. The final couple weeks were a sour note to end on.
CBB rosters are always a lot of moving parts so there’s no telling what next year will look like.
I know message boards and Twitter aren’t necessarily representative of an entire fan base. But it sorta feels like we’re close to the point where, even when Kk does good he’s past the point of being able to win over a segment of the fan base. Doeren was kinda there a few years ago and I think for the most part has overcome it. I hope KK succeeds enough to do overcome it as well. It’s not fun treating every season and even every game as a referendum on the coach. But…it’ll take more NCAAT appearances and, finally, some NCAAT wins to start winning fans over. 3/18/2023 7:02:47 AM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Will be interesting to see what next year brings. You never even know what roster we will have these days in basketball so it puts even more pressure on coaches I think. 3/18/2023 8:44:07 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
-1
STILL ZERO tournament wins 3/20/2023 1:23:07 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
When people talk about how this is the best team State's had in years...
Time to get rid of the coach. Nothing special to see this season.
And KK's resume to stay? 6 seasons, zero NCAAT wins, and a losing ACC record. The ACC was HORRIBLE this year and we still didn't make any noise. 3/20/2023 3:55:02 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
He’s not getting fired this year 3/20/2023 4:46:29 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26084 Posts user info edit post |
Hire Herb! 3/20/2023 5:08:56 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
This season buys him another year. We shall see how next year goes. 3/20/2023 10:29:15 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
^^^yeah would be shocked if that happened 3/21/2023 11:22:59 AM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh is the Kut Keatts Krew back?" |
3/21/2023 11:33:48 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
feels like it’s at the point where most every game will be a referendum on him. And that’s not really fun. He’s clearly earned another year but not much goodwill beyond that. I don’t see next year being any different from this year in terms of him coaching for his job - at least in the eyes of the fanbase. I have no idea how Boo feels about it.
[Edited on March 21, 2023 at 11:56 AM. Reason : A] 3/21/2023 11:55:25 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
He's gone the next time he misses the Tournament unless he does something he hasnt yet (win the ACC or do something in the Tournament) 3/21/2023 11:34:20 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
From all outside appearances, Boo really has his back. I agree that if he fully misses the NCAA again, he's out, and maybe even if he has another 1st round exit. Maybe an ACC tourny win would help, but I'm not convinced it would 3/22/2023 10:03:03 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
If he wins the acc tourney build a damn statue 3/22/2023 12:44:31 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and hoped he meant winning a game in the ACC Tourney next year
if we win the ACC Tournament next season, he gets a minimum of a 5 year grace period 3/22/2023 1:09:53 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
See that end fills like a wildly low bar. A single game acc tournament win shouldn't any affect at all unless that single game is the championship, in which case it should have a big effect. 3/22/2023 1:21:51 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I mean we won an ACC tournament game this year 3/22/2023 2:39:50 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
^ build a statue Imo 3/22/2023 2:46:54 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.backingthepack.com/2023/3/31/23662634/yes-kevin-keatts-runs-an-offense-heres-4000-words-on-it
This is a couple of weeks old but I just came across it. Kinda long but worth it if you have the time. A good look at the Keatts offense (AAU ISO BALL as it’s known to some internet gurus) 4/10/2023 8:22:58 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
BTP!!! 4/10/2023 10:09:39 AM |