Here are my thoughts:

If you want to fire Doeren because of games like last night's implosion, you have good reason. A new coach isn't going to regularly win 10 games here, but it is understandable to be tired of Doeren. If you want to fire Doeren because you think we should be winning conference championships and don't think he can do it, you are completely out of touch with the reality of college football. But hey, continue being delusional, who am i to stop you?

9/28/2025 9:32:47 AM

^100%

9/28/2025 9:47:16 AM

Correct. Set football expectations accordingly. Be competitive. Ben entertaining. Go to bowls. Beat unc. That’s about the most reasonable thing we can expect.

People with the “he’s been here 13 years and has 0 ACC titles” or no 10 win seasons…uh yeah, we haven’t won an ACC title in over years. Only won 10 games once and that was with a 14 game schedule. Those are not things that any coaches ever achieve at State.

9/28/2025 9:55:27 AM

More bowl game wins would be kinda nice. Dave is what, like 3-6 in bowl games?

9/28/2025 10:11:08 AM

Friendly reminder to all the people complaining about Doeren "padding his win totals by playing cupcakes": the 2002 team that won 11 games played 5 non-conference games, 4 of which were against powerhouses New Mexico, East Tennessee State, Navy and UMass. Oh and that wasn't a good Navy team. It was their first year under Paul Johnson, they went 2-10. They went 0-10 the previous year and 1-10 the year before that. They were AWFUL. So we played the worst D1A team and 2 1AA teams that year. 3 buy games!!! Imagine if Doeren tried to pull that now!

[Edited on September 28, 2025 at 10:11 AM. Reason : Maybe he just needs to wear sunglasses and shiny shoes]

9/28/2025 10:11:19 AM

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"uh yeah, we haven’t won an ACC title in over 40 years."

Is what it should say

9/28/2025 11:54:32 AM

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"Per terms of extension singed in 2024: Dave Doeren's "annual salary" is currently $3,125,366 (goes up $125K on 1/1) plus $3M in supplemental compensation (goes up $125K on 1/1). NC State would owe Doeren his "annual salary" thru end of 2029. So $12.5M buyout."

9/28/2025 4:53:23 PM

Lol

9/28/2025 5:28:27 PM

Won’t owe him a dime when he steps down at the end of the season.

9/29/2025 8:47:49 AM

Don't do drugs, k? ^

9/29/2025 9:12:09 AM

We can do this the easy way, or the hard way...

9/29/2025 11:26:00 AM

The FCC chair is gonna revoke CW's license if they don't take Doeren off the air.

9/29/2025 12:32:44 PM

DD is overpaid and underperforms.

I haven't been a fan of his for a while now. But haven't been active about canning him because "who would be better?"

I don't really care anymore. Get rid of him.

9/30/2025 12:03:38 PM

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"DD is overpaid"

I mean he's overpaid in the sense that all college football coaches are overpaid. In the hierarchy of college coaches and in particular the ACC, he is decidedly not overpaid.

Also, with regards to both his salary and the budget of the football program, he probably slightly overperforms, not underperforms.

Again, this is not advocating for keeping him around. But if you want him gone, at least use arguments that are true

9/30/2025 12:39:30 PM

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"no 10 win seasons"

didn't help that we had 9 wins before our bowl game was cancelled

9/30/2025 4:41:27 PM

^^100% correct.

There’s plenty of reasons to part ways with DD. Saying he’s overpaid is just wrong.

9/30/2025 5:31:29 PM

Has it really gotten that bad that an underperforming coach gets around $6,000,000 annually?

10/1/2025 11:33:14 AM

Yes. That’s the going rate.

USA Today 2024 article gave these figures. And if it’s a year old, I’m guessing the numbers are only going up.

Narduzzi is getting 6.7M
Jonathon Smith at Michigan State is getting 7.25M
Gundy, just fired fired was getting close to 8M
Kleiman at KState 5.5M
Like Fickell 7.7M

DD is getting paid in the top ~40 ish of coaches. Our results over the last 13 years are probably top 40 ish in the country.

10/1/2025 12:19:33 PM

Thanks for data drop.

10/2/2025 12:56:56 PM