Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
Another interesting thing is that INO's current market cap at this price is around $3.5 billion while MRNA's cap is $25 billion, which is ridiculous considering both have a very similar number of vaccines/therapeutics in clinical testing. MRNA has a $500 billion per year burn rate (4x INO's). Neither have any FDA approved products but, INO is much further along ...INO has double the number in Phase 2 trials and one that is in Phase 3 (MRNA has zero Phase 3s). I think this speaks more to MRNA's overvalue than INO's undervalue. 6/23/2020 6:27:25 PM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like the forecast is perfectly on track. Based on this prediction, INO should arrive at the moon by month's end:
6/23/2020 7:11:45 PM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
We getting $25 today?? Already hit $24.33 6/24/2020 10:58:54 AM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
Short squeeze in progress...Looks like I won’t have to drink a gallon of Rem Lezar’s piss
[Edited on June 24, 2020 at 11:45 AM. Reason : .] 6/24/2020 11:37:16 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Looks like I won’t have to drink a gallon of Rem Lezar’s piss" |
probably not, but not going in the right direction atm6/24/2020 4:18:54 PM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
Damn we are going to hit $30 today?? We might see $50 quicker than I thought. 6/25/2020 10:06:05 AM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
CHOO CHOOOOOOO
[b] 6/25/2020 1:40:02 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Way too late, but I'm on the train. 6/25/2020 2:13:05 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Sometimes basic math blows my mind. I know it and get it but can't do it quickly in my head.
If you gain 10% one day
and then lose 10% the next day
you're not at the same place.
Some people here will call me dumb or think i'm shitposting just for saying this but its what my mind wants to think even though I know it isn't true. If you had 100 and gained 10%, you have 110. If you lose 10% the next day, you now have 99. You lost 1% in that two day period. Yes, its obvious but my subconscious can't understand it at all.
100 and gain 50 % to 150. Lose 50% to 75. Gaining 50% and then losing 50% is losing 25%. Am I the only one who is bugged by this? 6/25/2020 2:52:46 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
yes 6/25/2020 4:12:52 PM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Not too late because you caught it before Phase 1 results. I imagine those will be PRed Monday because they never issue Friday PRs (but who knows). What a run this week and it’s still running in after hours.
[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 4:18 PM. Reason : .] 6/25/2020 4:18:30 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah was just looking.at the after hours 6/25/2020 6:03:59 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
6/25/2020 8:22:46 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Lol wtfbbq? 6/26/2020 9:40:02 AM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
Lots of profit taking this morning and probably another huge attack from short sellers to shake out the loose hands. NVAX and MRNA also down, however. Hold for the Phase 1 results - they should be PRed on Monday but I bet a lot of people were betting on it being today and got cold feet.
Btw Cantor Fitzgerald just upgraded their price target to $45:
https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=17051045
[Edited on June 26, 2020 at 9:48 AM. Reason : .] 6/26/2020 9:45:28 AM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
Strong rebound, while the rest of the market is still red (including NVAX/MRNA). 6/26/2020 11:34:56 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
We should start posting our daily alphas 6/27/2020 3:52:59 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
considering GE and F tomorrow early...
anyone vehemently disagree with either of those two?
Got in on Walters INO thankfully but still late to the party
[Edited on June 28, 2020 at 11:07 PM. Reason : r] 6/28/2020 11:06:54 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
I think the market is in for a strong tanking due to Rona numbers.
Not sure if it's gonna happen tomorrow or the next day but it's coming. 6/28/2020 11:23:53 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Friday was a bit of a tank, what makes you think this? 6/28/2020 11:30:22 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to wait until the stay at home orders come into effect, or deaths peak, whichever comes first I think will be about the new bottom. 6/29/2020 12:28:05 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
^^ the economic realities that the market has been ignoring for weeks+?
I don't know the exact moment when the market starts paying attention but it's coming. We are definitely in a bubble with these valuations.
[Edited on June 29, 2020 at 9:26 AM. Reason : 2% is more than a "bit of" a tank. ] 6/29/2020 9:25:39 AM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
INO Phase 1 results coming tomorrow apparently...100% guaranteed that they are $$$$. 6/29/2020 5:52:40 PM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
INO’s IR guy confirmed they are coming tomorrow. Not sure if pre-market or after hours (though I would assume pre-market). Let’s hope we see $40+
[Edited on June 29, 2020 at 7:05 PM. Reason : .] 6/29/2020 7:04:45 PM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
One huge advantage INO will have over others such as Moderna, is that it does not require any cold-chain storage. INO’s vaccine has a 1-year shelf life at room temperature.
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/vaccine-makers-face-biggest-medical-manufacturing-feat-in-history/5479157.html 6/29/2020 7:12:43 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
What else you got like INO^?
CLSK intrigues me. 6/29/2020 7:48:43 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Lol I think thats all he has but would be happy to be wrong 6/29/2020 10:53:08 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7144 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously lol. I don’t even care anout him not posting oprah sex tape anymore. For $$ he is making me I can buy lookalike 6/30/2020 12:15:47 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "INO Phase 1 results coming tomorrow apparently...100% guaranteed that they are $$$$.
" |
Reason #846 why you should always do your due diligence and never rely on internet message boards or press releases. Especially for biotech.6/30/2020 11:19:53 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
seems like you should have at least said it was 99% assured... 6/30/2020 12:00:00 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
well he was right a bunch of times till he was wrong so 6/30/2020 12:28:05 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
Jeez. Might just sell at $25 6/30/2020 1:17:04 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
well he got in at like $2.50 so... 6/30/2020 1:19:35 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7144 Posts user info edit post |
Tbt i never bought stock. Mad I didn’t when could be had for cheap. Even with dropping nearly 15% still jelly 6/30/2020 7:41:35 PM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
The limited data released was very positive and appear to be in line with their MERS vaccine results...a 94% immune response rate is great and it also was 100% effective in the mice challenge. I think the market got a bit spooked since they didn't go into any detail in the PR and it was a preliminary readout (full results will be published in peer-reviewed journal). The same thing happened to MRNA...they PRed preliminary/limited results and their share price took a hit afterwards. Another factor is that it was due for a correction after the huge run up.
They are now officially part of Warp Speed so much more funding is definitely coming (from the US/DoD and CEPI) now that they are moving to Phase 2/3...they are also initiating trials in China and South Korea. I think it's short-sighted and silly for anyone to bounce and take a loss considering what is coming. DoD had obviously seen the data before deciding to dump $100M in funding for production of their delivery device. They didn't do that just for shits and giggles.
[Edited on June 30, 2020 at 8:37 PM. Reason : .] 6/30/2020 8:32:22 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think the market got a bit spooked since they didn't go into any detail in the PR" |
Ya think? 6/30/2020 9:56:07 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
MRNA's press release actually had some data. 7/1/2020 11:38:52 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
7/1/2020 12:37:44 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
The FOMO was kiling me so I finally bought INO and MRNA on today's dips. 7/1/2020 2:53:16 PM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "MRNA's press release actually had some data." |
INO dropped the ball by promising Phase 1 readouts by end of June for the past couple of months. However, the analyses/data crunching are not yet complete and as a result, they were forced to PR what limited data they have thus far.
INO says that 94% of patients generated an immune response although they did not show a breakdown of those (binding/neutralizing antibodies and T-cell generation). Look at their MERS data below...94% exibitied antibodies and 88% T-cell generation. Although they have not presented the breakdown for the COVID-19 vaccine, it is certainly close to those MERS vaccine numbers. Their safety profile is also unmatched as compared to Moderna and Pfizer's...several of their patients had significant side effects and one of Moderna's patients even had to be hospitalized.
They are going to get a significant rebound once additional funding is announced. Like I've said, DoD has already seen the data they have at this point and they were confident enough to drop $100 million in initial funding based on what they have seen.
[Edited on July 1, 2020 at 9:07 PM. Reason : .]7/1/2020 9:02:59 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
In reality, Pfizer had the optimal release of data, publishing in a paper, rather than as a press release. you would think the likes of MRNA and INO would learn this lesson, as this isnt the first time they have been burned by a PR with lack of data.
Quote : | "The FOMO was kiling me so I finally bought INO and MRNA on today's dips." | Good move. Keep your stops tight.7/2/2020 10:25:19 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sarah Karlin-Smith @SarahKarlin . @BARDA 's Gary Disbrow - said it is not public right now who is a part of Operation Warp Speed. Only company can name is $AZN. Says these are market moving pieces of info. Will eventually publicly announce once contracts awarded." |
Surprising. I thought MRNA was also included in this. For sure MRNA and INO will be added once their P3 studies get off the ground.7/2/2020 11:40:24 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
man tight stops are the ultimate jinx. as soon as I look away, the stock will go down to hit my stop then quickly sneak back up higher than it was before. 7/2/2020 5:21:53 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
same thing happened again today but I don't get why when my stop was 20.00 and the price only went down to 20.10. Then of course it went straight to 21.84 right afterwards. I guess people are working it by hitting off even number stop orders and jumping in or out. I should have set my stop to 19.99 like bidding 1 dollar on the price is right. 7/6/2020 1:22:59 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
whats next to buy? 7/7/2020 9:17:59 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
can't go wrong with tech maybe 7/7/2020 9:30:01 AM |
Walter All American 7760 Posts user info edit post |
Was/is anyone holding NVAX? They got a huge bump today after big funding from Operation Warp Speed. 7/7/2020 7:50:43 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
i finally bought inphi yesterday even though it was up 35% since I first decided to buy it. Going to wait now for the upcoming double dip and get things I want when they're on sale. Deaths are on the rise again so shutdowns are coming...
Going into this crash I'm looking at:
NOC BABA TSM MU YNDX TROX QRVO LMT
and ready to jump on some things I don't like if they tank: WFC GE 7/7/2020 8:20:47 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
WFC has been horrific lately, I got out of that.
Had GE, sold it awaiting the results from the Boeing testing.
Looked into NVAX but it was already so high after the 1.6B news 7/7/2020 10:24:23 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
When its horrific is not the time to get out. Its the time to get in. I think it has further down to go but much further up to go once this pandemic is settled. 7/7/2020 11:03:36 PM |